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To: jveritas
Clearly they have got to get some sort of bill through or suffer a thorough demoralization and inevitable defeat at the polls in the midterms. Their challenge is to pretend to rationalize health care reform so that they can gull the people.

First they have to give the blue dogs cover so that they can vote the way they want to anyway, which is as George Soros tells them to do. They can accomplish this by stagemanaging sham concessions and crediting it to the stubbornness of one blue dog or another. They can grant a congressman a concession on a House bill and a senator a different concession a different concession on a Senate bill and have both of the measures restored in the final bill but leaving the congressman and senator at a place where they can claim to have resisted with all their might.

I think the public option is dead, although I have no doubt they will seek to resurrect it within a year's time and they may even try to leave it in the bill but camouflaged under a different name.

One of the more discouraging, even frightening, developments of this new administration has been its ability to either co-opt or intimidate our industries, much as Hitler seduced the great industrialists of Germany in 1933, to play along with Obama and his nationalization and socialization of whole sections of the economy. It will be interesting to see whether the insurance companies, for example, sensing weakness see an opportunity now to break from Obama or if they actually increase their support for his reform.

It is frightening to see our institutions, our businesses like General Electric, our media, our watchdogs like AARP, all rollover for this guy.

One last thought, anyone who watched his performance on stage in Colorado simply cannot believe this nonsense about him being incompetent without a Teleprompter. The sooner we conservatives face the reality that the man has presence and charisma, the sooner we will be able to combat him. It should not be surprising that he is good on stage, all he's doing is replaying his act as a traveling salesman for Saul Alinsky.


597 posted on 08/15/2009 5:59:39 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
Were you watching the same live performance I was?

You call his cardboard acting 'charisma'....

..he stuttered, hemmed & hawed his way through bumbling half sentences...

..he couldn't put two thoughts together!

598 posted on 08/15/2009 6:03:23 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: nathanbedford
The snakeoil salesmanship is wearing very thin with most voters.

Obama victory and defeat is very simple equation. If he loses 60% or less of the White voters then he is finished, if he loses less than 60% of the White voters then he can win like what happened in 2008 when he only lost 55% of the White voters. In my opinion, and regarless of the polls, right now Obama is losing more than 60% of the White voters.

I do not think that the public option is dead because if it is scraped from this bill then the White liberal voters who have almost all the power in the democrat party will go insane over this and hence Obama is certain to be defeated in 2012.

The disaster of socialized medicine is going to happen I am afraid. But with it will come the end of the left wing liberalism in America.

600 posted on 08/15/2009 7:19:45 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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