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To: stripes1776; nomoremods; All

Whether these were in fact “death panels” or not, the fact is that we are all going to die some day. It helps to know what one’s options are. I have lost my mother, 89, from congestive heart failure; my father; 90, from stroke; and my husband, 75, from Alzheimers. They all had made wills, had advanced directives, and medical and financial power’s of attorney assigned. They were all insistant that they did not want to go to a hospital for end stage treatment. When she had been hospitalized earlier for some treatment, my mother used to call me a 3 am crying “I’m SO hungry”. She knew I would care for her more attentively. They all said they did not want IV or stomach tubes if their situation would soon result in natural death, and their wishes were respected.

People need some kind of advice about dealing with the end stage, if they don’t already know and understand what is involved. How do we get this to them safely?


67 posted on 08/13/2009 1:22:32 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin
People need some kind of advice about dealing with the end stage, if they don’t already know and understand what is involved. How do we get this to them safely?

This already exists. What planet do you live on that you don't know that? You can talk to your doctor anytime about end of life, but it is not mandated and it is not used to force old people into early suicide, which is what this "wonderful" house bill intends to do.

71 posted on 08/13/2009 1:25:44 PM PDT by calex59
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To: gleeaikin

Without the GOVERNMENT!


85 posted on 08/13/2009 1:42:03 PM PDT by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42-12/17/45, d. 11/1/85 -Happy B'day Daddy 2/20/23)
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To: gleeaikin
G=tubes are no big deal. If people don't want g-tubes, they'll starve to death and dehydrate to death too if they ckd the no hydration box and no nutrition box. DNR is different cuz elderly have fragile bones for crash carts.

Wills to Live are superior to living wills.

However, under Obamacare, some bureaucrat may have something else in mind and lose or void all paperwork. With Zeke and the other mad scientists in the Obama admin, they're very clear about personhood and they don't include every citizen in their ideologies.

That's why they call it the culture of death. Death is going to happen but death cultists are paid the way planned parenthood is paid. Abortion and euthanasia are about the only businesses Barack Obama supports.

96 posted on 08/13/2009 1:56:01 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Obama's Health Care Plan Puts the "you" in euthanasia.)
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To: gleeaikin
People need some kind of advice about dealing with the end stage, if they don’t already know and understand what is involved. How do we get this to them safely?

Not by federally mandated end-of-life "consultations". The idea is to persuade an old person to refuse treatment and die so that the cost savings can be given to younger people under the age of 40. That includes illegal aliens.

How do we give this information to our loved ones? By talking to your doctor and nurses, and then talking things over with your family and loved ones. My mother died this year after 5 years of illness. Nobody pressured her. We told her what the options were. She made her own decision.

She did not want to die. She took the treatments that were available to her. Her life was prolonged by five years. I am very glad it was. We had 5 more years to spend with her before she died.

I do not want federally mandated end-of-life "consultations". It think death panel is a more appropriate term. The term cuts through all the platitudes.

109 posted on 08/13/2009 2:13:45 PM PDT by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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