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To: Syncro
if it doesn't fit the right guidelines it could be "aborted". That's right, at 2 years old!

Any links on that? Thanks.

166 posted on 08/13/2009 8:18:08 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TLI

I wrote Senator Grassley tonight and informed him that we viewed this as a sop!!! I told him 1. NO PUBLIC OPTION!! 2NO DEATH PANELS 3. NO FREE HEALTH CARE FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS!!! 4. NO TAXPAYER PAID BABY KILLING and 5. NO PASSIVE EUTHANASIA!!
I worry about him.


169 posted on 08/13/2009 8:29:42 PM PDT by londonfog
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To: TLI
Obama has a few close advisers

Look them up, especially any with health care credentials or positions and research them

One of them has those beliefs

Sorry I don't remember his name, but we will come across it again

176 posted on 08/13/2009 10:20:48 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: TLI
if it doesn't fit the right guidelines it could be "aborted". That's right, at 2 years old!

Any links on that? Thanks.

I think it is this guy, Dr. Ezekiel J. Emanuel. Chicago Mob enforcer and Obama "hit" man Rahm Emanuel's brother.

Here is some information about him.


Dr. Ezekiel J. Emanuel is as scary as his younger brother, Rahm. Actually, he may be scarier.

R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr., the Washington Times, writes that you better get sick now or you may be sorry.

If you have any sense that you may be getting sick in the years ahead, I suggest you get sick immediately. If you will need of surgery or any medical procedure, do it now! If not immediately, be certain that you hand yourself over to the health care professionals before Oct. 15. That is the date on which President Obama hopes to sign his health care bill once it has gone through the congressional baloney grinder.

At the heart of Mr. Obama's plan is his stated goal to cut medical costs. That might sound good to you, but it means cutting services, nurses, technicians, medical tests and, most prominently, the use of expensive technology. The president's top medical advisers are quite frank about this.

Dr. Ezekiel J. Emanuel, brother of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel and a health-policy adviser in the Office of Management and Budget, has chided Americans for the expense of their "being enamored with technology." Dr. David Blumenthal, another key Obama adviser, charges medical innovations as being responsible for fully two-thirds of the annual increase in health care spending. Their solution is to limit expensive innovations. A 2008 Congressional Budget Office report agrees with their cost analysis but concludes happily that such innovations "permit the treatment of previously untreatable conditions." As I shall show, there are more humane ways to cut health care costs.

Also at the heart of Mr. Obama's plan is the restriction of services for older people, people 65 and older who, by vir
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Read the entire post here.

The following has been composed by Ezekiel 'Dr Death' Emanuel -- a special adviser to Budget Director Peter Orszag and older brother of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel -- heads up the White House's health care reform efforts. Obama has appointed Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel to a top-level position as one of his top-level advisors, and Czars on health care reform.

 

*Special Note: the term allocation refers to rationing.

 

 

"PRINCIPLES USED FOR ALLOCATING SCARCE MEDICAL INTERVENTION"

 

Coauthored by Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel

 

Allocation of medical interventions is a persistent ethical challenge. We evaluate eight simple allocation principles that can be classified into four categories: treating people equally, favouring the worst-off, maximising total benefits, and promoting and rewarding social usefulness. No single principle is sufficient to incorporate all morally relevant considerations and therefore individual principles must be combined into multiprinciple allocation systems. We evaluate three systems: the United Network for Organ Sharing points systems, quality-adjusted life-years, and disability-adjusted life-years. We recommend an alternative system—the complete lives system—which prioritises younger people who have not yet lived a complete life, and also incorporates prognosis, save the most lives, lottery, and instrumental value principles.

 

Nazi Genocidal Intent of Obama's Proposed Healthcare Reforms Exposed; Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel (Rahm's brother) Escapes when Confronted


Panelists warn of the revival of eugenics under Obamas modern healthcare through the denial of care to millions of elderly, terminally-ill, and poor people, who would be judged not fit to live, just as in Nazi Germany. This would save, as President Obama says, $2-3 million, by taking lives not worthy to be lived.
Dr. Ezekiel Emmanuel, health policy advisor to President Obama and leader of a propaganda movement for euthanasia headquarted at The Hastings Center,

believes in witholding medical care from the elderly for the greater good.


Related Stories: Obama's Nazi Doctors and Their 'Reforms'
I can't find the proof of what I originally posted, but I think this is the guy.

I will keep looking.

This guy is a bad man.

194 posted on 08/14/2009 11:34:36 AM PDT by Syncro
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To: TLI
OK, I finally found the link for you.

And a quote.

John Holdren's life story didn't start until he was 4 years old, at least that's the way he tells it.

According to John, The fetus, given the opportunity to develop properly before birth, and given the essential early socializing experiences and sufficient nourishing food during the crucial early years after birth, will ultimately develop into a human being.

Where any of these essential elements is lacking, the resultant individual will be deficient in some respect."

I wonder what my sister would say if I told her that her 1 year old son, excuse me, her one year old fetus, isn't a human. Maybe I can return the birthday gift I bought him; I mean, do fetuses really appreciate presents?

So he is saying that even in the "early years after birth" that a "fetus" can be aborted.

John Holden coauthored a book Ecoscience in the 1970's. It is a personal rights and freedom nightmare. Forced population control, forced sterilization and forced abortions whether it's wanted or not.

A global armed force to enforce this in our own country with denationalization.

Also tons of renowned and creditable scientists have gone on record and lists as claiming the global warming as a fraud. It is a Gore, Pelosi and several others we could name being an economic, political agenda.

If not why have they invested so deeply in certain GREEN companies then trying to force through so many bills without allowing others to read them. What are they afraid of. The cap N trade bill will be the death of America's competitiveness on a global level. It's all fine and good to want to live in a perfect utopia but it isn't realistic either. This man has scary and invasive ideas.

This is John Holdren, Obama's Science Czar

For more read his book called Ecoscience

195 posted on 08/14/2009 1:19:48 PM PDT by Syncro
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