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To: Dutchboy88; Dr. Eckleburg; xzins; P-Marlowe; PetroniusMaximus; Salvation; NYer; Coleus; narses; ...
Apparently Catholics United supports abortion. Would any Catholic care to comment on what the official Catholic position is on what happens to the unborn baby if no ceremonial sacraments are performed by the baby or on the baby before it is thrown in the trash?

Those who hold to election understand that each chosen person is rescued irrespective of their lifespan, but it seems that the “free will” issues of Catholicism have a difficulty here. That is, unless they use that parachute, “age of accountability”. Where again is that Scriptural reference?

I am FRiends with a great many Evangelical FReepers and quite a few of them have longstanding issues with Catholic doctrine. However, I have ALWAYS known them to be openly supportive of Catholic efforts in the fight for life.

My sense, and if I am wrong I will be the first to admit it, is that your post is an attempt to engage Catholics in some sort of debate over the unborn and I WILL NOT participate in any such debate. ALL devout Christians are under attack by the left in ways that have not been seen for over sixteen centuries; whatever dogmatic differences we may have, we damn well better recognize those many beliefs we share because we are about to persecuted and very possibly jailed and our enemy really doesn't care if we are Catholic, Baptist, Calvinist, Protestant or anything else.

22 posted on 08/12/2009 4:52:41 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; Dutchboy88; Dr. Eckleburg; xzins; P-Marlowe; PetroniusMaximus; Salvation; NYer; ...
I am FRiends with a great many Evangelical FReepers and quite a few of them have longstanding issues with Catholic doctrine. However, I have ALWAYS known them to be openly supportive of Catholic efforts in the fight for life.

You bet!

I'll stand with anyone who wants to protect life. It is one area where we are united.

FWIW, the abortion issue is as much a result of weak kneed pastors and priests as it is Christians not living for Jesus. By this I mean the lack of church discipline and Christians not holding brothers and sisters accountable. If our clergy promoted discipline and we supported it there would be a lot less of this evil. Instead we talk a good game, but we don't do what needs to be done.

IOW, throw the politicians & judges that support these policies out of the churches.

25 posted on 08/12/2009 5:11:40 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wagglebee

I wasn’t aware that being pro-life had to include an agreement to avoid discussions/debates over the surrounding issues. My sense is that you don’t wish to discuss any of these and that is fine. However, nobody is the spokesman for everyone, if I am not mistaken.


29 posted on 08/12/2009 6:19:11 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: wagglebee
My sense, and if I am wrong I will be the first to admit it, is that your post is an attempt to engage Catholics . . .

I believe the more accurate verb here is "to provoke."

49 posted on 08/13/2009 8:13:06 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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