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I find that in the West many Christians in the last century or so try to use science to prove the existence of God or a miracle, etc.

This seems like a Western Christian way of viewing the world and what I mean by that is that to Eastern Christians, God and his works are a mystery so to use science or worldly knowledge to uncover proof of God’s hand is a waste of time such as searching for Noah’s flood, or the real Garden of Eden, etc.

An Eastern Christian would for example have the view that physics is a measure of the world and God is knowable so how can he be quantified?

Science is a measure of the natural world. God dwells (according to Christian theology) in the ‘supernatural’ world. Hence science is not designed to measure the supernatural world so why use it to do so?

Of course this leads to the conclusion that there is no supernatural world because science can not detect it but science can’t detect alternate realities either and evidence exists via a theoretical model for those but that gets into philosophy and philosophy is not empirical science.

I find that in the West many Christians in the last century or so try to use science to prove the existence of God or a miracle, etc.

It is a completely legitimate thing to do. Biology studies the origin of species and creation by an intelligent designer is a legitimate scientific theory. Evolution is not the only scientific theory which looks at the origin of species. Evolution has not shown using science that a species can mutate into a completely new species, all it has shown is that there are vast variations inside of each species. These results do not eliminate creation, nor do they make the idea of Creation unscientific. It has been only recently, through the invasion of science by the God haters, where scientists so mockingly look at the combination of God and Science. For most of Civilization as we know it, the two were perfectly compatible and no scientific revelation have been found to change that, only the religion of Darwinism whose leaders despise God. And they have spread their hatred all throughout the schools and Universities in our country and now even Christians are confused about God and Science.

Conduct studies on particle collision and create intelligent systems by the collisions. Evolve current species into new species. That is how you can clearly see just how real and scientific God is. Then tell me God isn't scientific after you have collided one trillion particles and have nothing to show for it. And tried to evolve any existing animal into a new species and have nothing to show for it. These results will be feeble and pathetic and then all will know using science that God is real and almighty! Creation is scientific! To say otherwise is a philosophical statement and not a scientific one.

I find that in the West many Christians in the last century or so try to use science to prove the existence of God or a miracle, etc.

The Christian world view has responded to aggression by a few who try to pass their humanistic philosophy off as empirical science.

The humanist, even the ones who claim to be Christian, reject the few details of the creation as written in the Bible and instead they pretend that if you do not take on their philosophical explantion of the creation, you are rejecting science. That is the liar's strawman.

For the Christian to be silent in the face of aggression by this competing philosophy, (which only recently has completely come out of the closet and has become increasingly propped up by state force), is foolishness.

God's creation, (the now fallen creation) and what we call the natural world, is part of the creation of God. That is what is being studied by science, God's creation.

If you think a good deal of the scientific community that pontificates does their pontifications without a strong philosophical bias, you misjudge them and have not watched them over the years. They behave as if they have, not science, but their humanistic philosphy at stake, and they are correct.