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Why We Must Ration Health Care
NY Times ^
| 7/15/09
| Peter Singer
Posted on 08/10/2009 4:12:10 PM PDT by FrdmLvr
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posted on
08/10/2009 4:12:11 PM PDT
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FrdmLvr
To: FrdmLvr
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posted on
08/10/2009 4:13:55 PM PDT
by
cranked
Hey NYT editor....you first!!!!
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posted on
08/10/2009 4:14:59 PM PDT
by
ak267
To: FrdmLvr
To: FrdmLvr
You can’t put a price on a human life.
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posted on
08/10/2009 4:16:54 PM PDT
by
freekitty
(Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
To: cranked
amazing.. this Singer certainly has a very callous and nefarious viewpoint in regards to the importance of fighting with every last breath, to keep alive.. in that it is a fundamental human drive.
Soylent Green indeed. This is one heck of a scary article.
To: Chuzzlewit
Peter Singer must no doubt be related to Margaret Singer....
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posted on
08/10/2009 4:22:16 PM PDT
by
cranked
To: cranked
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posted on
08/10/2009 4:22:56 PM PDT
by
cranked
To: FrdmLvr
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posted on
08/10/2009 4:23:24 PM PDT
by
pabianice
To: Chuzzlewit
Once you accept the notion that man is nothing more than a mutated descendant related to any other animal, the notion of life having special meaning becomes alien.
Singer is not the exception, other than being smart enough to reason through the consequences of an evolutionary framework to the logical conclusion.
No doubt, Obama would not want to give $54,000 of his own money to give someone else 6 months of life — he said that if it wasn’t his own grandmother he would have questioned giving her hip surgery.
To: FrdmLvr
"You have advanced kidney cancer. It will kill you, probably in the next year or two. A drug called Sutent slows the spread of the cancer and may give you an extra six months, but at a cost of $54,000. Is a few more months worth that much? "
How about this version.
Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi age 69 has advanced kidney cancer.It will kill her, probably in the next year or two. A drug called Sutent slows the spread of the cancer and may give her an extra six months, but at a cost of $54,000. Is a few more months worth that much to YOU? Is it worth that much TO HER??
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posted on
08/10/2009 4:30:36 PM PDT
by
silverleaf
(If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
To: cranked
You should read the article as it ends. It’s not at all supportive of Obamacare or any of the other democrat plans. Singer pretty much reaches the conclusion that publically paid for health care should be rationed based upon cost/quality of life issues but with a private insurance available to cover anything that the public plan does not.
This is a far cry from anything the universal single payer proponents would find acceptable. They want a system where everyone receives the absolutely the same care regardless of ability to pay. Therefore such a system must ration care since to do otherwise would bankrupt the system.
To: silverleaf
How bout this? In Pelosi’s case, she will get the treatment she wants, but we will not.
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posted on
08/10/2009 4:33:31 PM PDT
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: cranked
They're related in goals and aspirations.
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posted on
08/10/2009 4:34:51 PM PDT
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: pabianice
That was just the title of the piece.
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posted on
08/10/2009 4:39:37 PM PDT
by
FrdmLvr
To: FrdmLvr
seems to me he just made the case...for non rationed health care.
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posted on
08/10/2009 4:59:58 PM PDT
by
stylin19a
(Obama's Plan B - Payday Loans)
To: FrdmLvr
The question is WHO will make the decisions to treat or not treat. Will the decision be made by the patient, patient’s family and personal physician or will a government doctor or bureaucratic board make that determination with no appeal or recourse.
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posted on
08/10/2009 5:00:30 PM PDT
by
The Great RJ
("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
To: FrdmLvr
President Obama urged them to avoid using the term, apparently for fear of evoking the hostile response that sank the Clintons attempt to achieve reform...That's so he can say "We never said anything about rationing!"
Whatta putz.
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posted on
08/10/2009 5:00:56 PM PDT
by
SuziQ
To: FrdmLvr
Since liberals think killing babies is no big deal, we shouldn’t be surprised that killing adults and children is no big deal.
Logan’s Run, anybody?
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posted on
08/10/2009 5:01:11 PM PDT
by
CodeToad
(If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
To: cranked
There is no difference between Peter Singer and Dr. Mengele. No difference whatsoever.
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