When takers outvote makers

JS Online ^ | 8-8-09 | Jim Burkee

[Kudsman]

War.

Maybe there could be some steps before we run headlong into one. Makers insisting on voters providing identification could be a first step to limiting some of the fraud. Of course when this idea is floated the proposer is immediately bombarded by racism charges. Before war should come a legitimate Tax Revolt where all earners claim 10 exemptions to evapoate all withholdings. Then no filing. Also rather than the makers being the attackers in the war the Government must be made to be the oppressors. There are off to a good start on that one.

[petercooper]

bttt

[Deagle]

You know...that is what I though a while ago... I had two nice 401K plans with lots of money (over a million total) and thought I had it made. Well, the abrupt downturn wiped me out not just figuratively, but realistically. Lost almost all of it except for about 60 thousand...geez.

Now I have to survive on Social Security and am glad it is still available - although maybe not for long. Not feeling all that secure about my son’s 401K at this time...and I doubt that Social Security will be viable in the future.

So...I live as I can, knowing that 401K plans are just as bogus as Social Security... You just have to be lucky and get out at the right time I guess...

[NurdlyPeon]

One hitch in the military or 20 years civil service.

Or give birth to one child that is being supported without state help.

[MIchaelTArchangel]

What we need is a minimum income tax rate that EVERYONE must pay, say 5.00%, to do away with the huge number of people who pay no income taxes and therefore want tax rates on everyone else increased.

[muir_redwoods]

"Easy answer: if you are not paying taxes of some kind (income, FICA or taxes on investments), you don’t vote. Or you don’t vote if you are a net “taker” versus a net producer. Or if you are receiving a check from the government of any kind, except for a system like social security to which you have contributed, you don’t vote."

Maybe we should put that idea to a vote.

[nascarnation]

I’ve talked about the Baraqqi coalition for months.

Illegals
Welfare recipients
Union members
Minorities
Idiot libs

Add them up and you get scary close to a voting majority, I’m afraid.

I do hold out some hope for 010 when the Messiah is not on the ballot and we can go after individual Dems in Congress.

Pray for gridlock.

[BlueLancer]

"Or if you are receiving a check from the government of any kind..."

And what's your stance on military retirement checks?

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[BlueLancer]

Sorry, my response #48 should have been addressed to you.

[Lurker]

Maybe there could be some steps before we run headlong into one.

We're all out of steps my friend. And we aren't the ones pushing it.

[Iron Munro]

It’s great to know you know people in the 30-40 year old bracket pissed off!

It is a bright spot - They're not all Obama-Zombies.

[Iron Munro]

It’s great to know you know people in the 30-40 year old bracket pissed off!

It is a bright spot - They're not all Obama-Zombies.

[The Toad]

Wasn’t our founding based on “no taxation, without representation”? They had no problem being taxed as long as their interests were being represented in government. Wouldn’t that beg to say then that it would also be “no representation, without taxation”? All squares are rectangles, therefore all rectangles are squares? That king of "logic" doesn't work.

[The Toad]

Wasn’t our founding based on “no taxation, without representation”? They had no problem being taxed as long as their interests were being represented in government. Wouldn’t that beg to say then that it would also be “no representation, without taxation”? All squares are rectangles, therefore all rectangles are squares? That king of "logic" doesn't work.

[gunner03]

What we need is a minimum income tax rate that EVERYONE must pay, say 5.00%, to do away with the huge number of people who pay no income taxes and therefore want tax rates on everyone else increased.

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Did someone say flat tax ?

[Publius6961]

what happens to democratic society when non-producers can vote themselves benefits at the expense of the producing class?

This has been happening, and growing, since the mid-sixties. My only real amazement is that it actually worked for so long without a murmur from the producers ("progressive" tax rates anyone?), but the greed of the parasites was somewhat checked by never having all three branches of government firmly on "their" side.

That is about to change and the conclusion can naively be called a big explosive surprise or, more realistically, the second, bloody civil war. The results can'r be pretty no matter what the outcome.

We live in interesting times.

[Indy Pendance]

I have a 'who is John Galt' sticker on my car. I figure the libs won't get it. Within my family, (Thank God, I've raised conservatives, hope my grand babies heed the warning), we have a saying, we've gone Galt, Going Galt, Or the fun one: What would Galt do? All I can say is, we're trying hard to NOT contribute to the economy. Why support the government. We are trying every way to take away from the takers, see this thread: When takers outvote makers" takers.

[bukkdems]

Give us the simple liberties that Mexicans enjoy, to purchase safe, effective drugs without a doctor’s prescription. We are enslaved and painted as ignorant by our doctors. If you need a drug for the rest of your life, then why can’t your get a lifetime prescription?

In Mexico, you can get antibiotics, steroids, ED drugs, amphetamines, antihistamines and many other drugs with the knowledge of your pharmacist that your doctor ordered this a while back or it’s obvious you need it.

Just in my case alone, in the past two months,it has cost more than $1,000 to get drugs I knew that I needed, and could have gotten without an Rx in Mexico. We are enslaved and don’t even know it. Yes, lawyers need to be bitch-slapped but so do doctors.

[Indy Pendance]

I used to go to Mexico for business, A LOT, A Lot. I was ther for months at a time. It was amazing how many freedoms they had compared to the US.
Smoke where you want. We’re suckers. Our government pretends to be ‘for the people’, they’re just priming the pump. People, beware, they want to control the US, and obama is the key. He can’t fool everyone, and he’s falling apart! We need to keep highlighting his downfalls.

[thulldud]

It was amazing how many freedoms they had compared to the US.

At least one FReeper I have seen sports the tagline, "Does anybody still believe this is a free country?" You don't realize how bad the nanny state is until you go somewhere that they don't have one.