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Death Drugs Cause Uproar in Oregon (Obamacare Preview)
ABC News/Health ^ | August 6, 2009 | Susan Donaldson James

Posted on 08/09/2009 2:39:50 PM PDT by WhiteCastle

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To: WhiteCastle
Grandma will get run over by Obama.

Thank you for the fine post WhiteCastle


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21 posted on 08/09/2009 4:26:47 PM PDT by B-Cause (It's not what you gather, but what you scatter that tells what kind of life you have lived.)
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To: magooey

I think the money went to the general fund in Michigan. From there it likely went to programs to “blow us away” such as Cool Cities. I think “blown away” means death spiral.


22 posted on 08/09/2009 4:29:04 PM PDT by mcshot (My President will be honest, transparent, open and have a legitimate birth certificate.)
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To: alloysteel

If they say no, then the answer is no. That I do not find unreasonable.
The euthanasia offer, to anyone, is horrifying.


23 posted on 08/09/2009 4:35:53 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: alloysteel
But when you take away all hope, what is there?

People with no hope have nothing left to lose. The politicians would do well to remember that.

24 posted on 08/09/2009 5:13:34 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: DFG

haha

THAT is very very good!!


25 posted on 08/09/2009 6:08:36 PM PDT by GeronL (http://unitedcitizen.blogspot -Guilty of deviationism- http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: long hard slogger; FormerACLUmember; Harrius Magnus; hocndoc; parousia; Hydroshock; skippermd; ...


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26 posted on 08/09/2009 6:32:23 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: WhiteCastle
On average this drug would extend her life 2 months.

If I was her doctor I would not have presented her the option.

But, that'd be between doc a patient...not the government.

27 posted on 08/09/2009 6:39:44 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: WhiteCastle

although this makes the insurance companies really bad, it needs to be pointed out. (I hate giving Obama ammo to make ins companies look worse, but a spade is a spade)

yet in comparison, this woman does have alternatives and can take these people to court.
That is something that she Can never do with Obamacare. It is outlawed in HR 3200, govt word is law, no opinions, no arbitration, no courts. Nothing.


28 posted on 08/09/2009 6:49:56 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Munz
The news from Barbara Wagner's doctor was bad, but the rejection letter from her insurance company was crushing.

The 64-year-old Oregon woman, whose lung cancer had been in remission, learned the disease had returned and would likely kill her. Her last hope was a $4,000-a-month drug that her doctor prescribed for her, but the insurance company refused to pay.

Notice how the LYING BASTARDS at ABC News try to make you believe it was a heartless private insurance company that denied this treatment.

The woman is enrolled in a Oregon State health program which is a public program just like ObamaCare! It is a government bureaucrat who denied the coverage, not a private insurance company. This will be the fate of all of us under ObamaCare

29 posted on 08/09/2009 9:13:23 PM PDT by BigBobber
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To: RummyChick

The government will not allow drug companies to sell drugs at their market price. Prices will be fixed by the government. Yes innovation will plummet and inventions and research will slow down to a crawl. Another reason we don’t want what the Democrats are trying to sell.


30 posted on 08/09/2009 10:19:24 PM PDT by 4Godsoloved..Hegave (Never explain yourself, Your friends don't need it and your enemies won't believe it.)
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To: WhiteCastle; All

If Oregon is trying to cut costs - why didn’t they offer her a 35-cent bullet ???

Way cheaper than $50 drugs ...


31 posted on 08/09/2009 11:02:06 PM PDT by Lmo56
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To: BigBobber

WAIT A MINUTE. This was from Medicaid?

Not private insurance????


32 posted on 08/10/2009 6:58:07 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: BigBobber

I FEEL LIKE SUCH AN A$$.

It is right there in black and white and I completely glossed over it.

Thank you for making me wake up and read it through again.


33 posted on 08/10/2009 7:07:34 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Munz

Oregon Health Program is an Oregon mini-version of ObamaCare. It is a public agency. The people who administer it are state employees.

If you look at the comments on the ABC site you will see how many people were mislead by the article into thinking this was private insurance. Obama’s minions in the MSM have NO shame and spread his lies around.


34 posted on 08/10/2009 7:09:55 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: Munz

It looks like the comments posted on the ABC site were too hot to handle. Viewing comments is currently disabled for the article on the ABC website.


35 posted on 08/10/2009 7:18:55 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: pharmamom; DonaldC

What Europe does is get cheap drugs while US citizens pay the full price of R&D.

We should allow re-importation and the prices in Canada and Europe would rise and our prices would come down. We are subsidizing socialized medicine in Europe and Canada.


36 posted on 08/10/2009 9:03:42 AM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: WhiteCastle

Where does the wholly preventable, extremely expensive disease AIDS stand on the priority list?


37 posted on 08/10/2009 9:06:14 AM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: WhiteCastle
Her last hope was a $4,000-a-month drug that her doctor prescribed for her, but the insurance company refused to pay.

Note that they don't mention that Oregon Health Plan is a government-run health plan until well into the article.

38 posted on 08/10/2009 9:10:07 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: WhiteCastle

Based on the ABC article on this, the Oregon public health insurance this woman has is only for those under the poverty line, ostensively those unable to get any other form of insurance. Clearly, any effort to ever extend this kind of plan to everyone should be fought tooth and nail.

However, given that this is essentially “tax payer funded basic insurance for poor people,” I’m not sure it’s wrong to deny a $4k per month drug that might only add a couple of months to ones life.

Is it?


39 posted on 08/11/2009 5:51:21 AM PDT by sand lake bar
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40 posted on 08/11/2009 3:53:20 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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