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Baird explains he didn't want anyone hurt in an uproar (WA)
TDN.com ^ | August 9, 2009 | Tom Vogt

Posted on 08/09/2009 11:11:59 AM PDT by jazusamo

Congressman Brian Baird accepted an invitation to a living-room chat with a local Republican leader who volunteered Friday to be his bodyguard, and agreed to a national radio appearance with a conservative talk-show host.

Baird was scolded for his choice of words in an ongoing political storm, and was both supported and criticized for holding a "telephone town hall" instead of an actual town hall meeting.

And then there was the fax that the Vancouver Democrat characterized as a death threat.

Friday added several new chapters to a story that started this week when Baird said he wasn't going to schedule a town hall meeting with his Southwest Washington constituents during the August recess.

Baird cited disruptions in recent town hall gatherings in other parts of the country, including a Michigan event where police were summoned.

He's not afraid of opposing voices, Baird said after Friday's telephone event.

"We understand politics is raucous," Baird said. "When a small group of people is dedicated to disruption for disruption's sake, it puts you in an untenable position. The choice is not to have it — call off the meeting — or have police intervention to clear the room, which leads to the possibility of people getting hurt."

In a Wednesday interview, Baird had compared the people who generated that sort of disruption on a national scale with Nazi Brownshirts in Germany before World War II. On Friday, Baird emphasized that he wasn't calling his constituents Nazis; he was referring to people organizing national campaigns.

"I didn't call any constituents Brownshirts. It's the activities of Web sites," Baird said.

Randy Behrendsen said he doesn't see a distinction.

"It came out of his mouth, and was a wrong thing to say," the Woodland farmer told The Columbian. "Regardless of how he meant it, who really knows? It's easy to say that after the fact. I'm a Republican, but I've never had an ax to grind with him. But all he's done has been wiped out by the statements he's made."

Baird said Friday that he was talking about people who make death threats, someone "who faxes a picture, 'Death to Marxists, foreign and domestic.' That happened to me today."

Baird's office forwarded a copy of an image of President Obama that's already been circulated, showing him made over in the style of the Batman villain "The Joker." The fax to Baird featured two new wrinkles — a hammer-and-sickle symbol on Obama's forehead and the words, "Death to All Marxists! Foreign and Domestic!" under the photo.

Baird said he wanted to focus on content, not controversy, in scheduling the hour-long "telephone town hall" Friday.

One of Friday's callers was Nansen Malin of Long Beach, Republican 3rd District co-chair. She invited Baird to a town hall meeting in her own living room.

"I assure there will be civility and discourse. I'll be your bodyguard," she said.

"I thought it was a great offer, a very generous offer," Baird said of the not-yet-scheduled meeting.

Baird also said he accepted an invitation from conservative radio personality Lars Larson, a Vancouver resident.

"Lars invited me to a two-hour session on his national show," Baird said. "I will listen to his side, talk about what is or is not in the legislation. We haven't scheduled it yet."

Still, some locals don't want to just hear Baird's voice on the phone or over the radio. They're still looking for a face-to-face meeting.

"I was under the impression the congressman worked for the people of the United States, particularly this area," said Kathe Seibert of Vancouver, who called The Columbian to support a local town hall meeting. "I don't care if he's held more meetings than any other congressman. We need to talk to him.

"I really think he needs to man up. I don't think we have bunch of anarchists," Seibert said. "People need to be heard. Get it done."

Other callers to The Columbian supported Baird's approach.

"Extreme conservatives like Rush Limbaugh have worked people up," said Battle Ground resident Bill Jackson. "I don't want to be in a meeting where people act like mob. It's good for people to have different opinions, but I think conservatives are trying to drive a wedge between people in our country."

"I think it's crazy what the far right is doing," said Donna Lien of Vancouver. "'Just say no! Just say no!' How can you have a town hall meeting that way? I think it's being orchestrated."

Party lines aren't the only source of heat in the health-care discussion, Baird noted.

"The differences are not always between parties," he said. "I had a chat with a fellow, and even when we agreed, he was trying to shout me down."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 111th; baird; brianbaird; coward; healthcare; obamacare; townhalls
Interesting comments after the article, mostly against Baird.
1 posted on 08/09/2009 11:11:59 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: sionnsar

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2 posted on 08/09/2009 11:13:41 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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3 posted on 08/09/2009 11:14:00 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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4 posted on 08/09/2009 11:16:54 AM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Neda Agha-Soltan - victim of murdering regime)
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To: jazusamo; shibumi

“disruption for disruption’s sake”

WTF?!?

We’re -literally- fighting for our very LIVES here!


5 posted on 08/09/2009 11:22:44 AM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away..............)
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To: jazusamo

“He needs to man up...” - I’m afraid that’s a physical impossibility. He has insulted, alienated, and offended half of his constituents and now is hiding from them.

He needs to go (in the nicest possible way of course ;’}


6 posted on 08/09/2009 11:23:11 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: jazusamo

It took only one shot (no one is even sure whether it was the patriots or the British) to ignite a revolution. Congratulations to the Great Uniter-—The Marxist Onada.

In office only six months and he’s more than tripled the deficit Bush built in 8 years and he’s finally aroused the sleeping giant—the Silent Majority.

Looks like the dembots, and others who voted for the Marxist Bozo, are gettling a whole different kind of change then they bargained for.

And these lies about unemployment slowing down and rising new home starts, alleged CIA interrogation abuses is the kind of baloney that just ain’t flyin’ anymore. People are saying that the propaganda put out by Onada’s Info Ministry just doesn’t square with what they’re I’m seeing with their own eyes.


7 posted on 08/09/2009 11:28:22 AM PDT by dools007
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To: rockrr
He needs to go (in the nicest possible way of course ;’}

Exactly! Baird has been here too long.

8 posted on 08/09/2009 11:29:26 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Oh, and I registered and added my own .02 ;’}


9 posted on 08/09/2009 11:32:46 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: jazusamo

The Dems like BAIRD are AFRAID of organized confrontation, because he knows how DEMOCRAT ORGANIZED CONFRONTATION works, ... it’s painfull and BLOODY!


10 posted on 08/09/2009 11:34:05 AM PDT by gwilhelm56 (Orwell's 1984 - To Conservatives, a WARNING - to Liberals, a TEXTBOOK!)
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To: jazusamo

Baird is a gutless weasel.


11 posted on 08/09/2009 11:46:52 AM PDT by Zman (Liberals: denying reality since Day One.)
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To: Zman; All
Baird is a gutless weasel.

No need to insult weasels by comparing us to the likes of Baird....

"sniffle"

From the posted article:

Baird said Friday that he was talking about people who make death threats, someone "who faxes a picture, 'Death to Marxists, foreign and domestic.' That happened to me today."

Well, I can see why he might take this personally if he considers himself a Marxist.  Otherwise....

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For those who may have missed it......

Baird Equates Town Hall Protesters to Tim McVeigh « Northwest Digest

(Thanks to OrbusMax for the link...  www.orbusmax.com )

 

12 posted on 08/09/2009 12:58:57 PM PDT by Stoat (Sarah Palin 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: jazusamo

Hey, this Baird is a real John Wayne type, isn’t he! Accepting a woman as his “body guard!” Now there is a true American HERO!! Scared to death to meet with his constituents, but it’s not because of any physical danger and this little weasel knows it. He just doesn’t want more film added to the ever-expanding library of democrat liars, whiners and subject-changers.


13 posted on 08/09/2009 1:02:27 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: jazusamo
Baird said Friday that he was talking about people who make death threats, someone "who faxes a picture, 'Death to Marxists, foreign and domestic.' That happened to me today."

So, he considers this a death threat? That must mean he thinks himself a Marxist.

I guess if the shoe fits...

14 posted on 08/09/2009 1:18:06 PM PDT by seowulf (Petraeus, cross the Rubicon.)
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To: jazusamo
'Death to Marxists, foreign and domestic.'

If you aren't acting like a Marxist, why are you even worrying about it?

Of course, if you are... you deserve to worry. A lot...

15 posted on 08/09/2009 1:35:57 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: seowulf

Yep, it’s a real stretch to consider it a death threat. Of course it’s a better excuse than saying he doesn’t have the answers to tough questions.


16 posted on 08/09/2009 1:39:10 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

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17 posted on 08/09/2009 1:42:13 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: gwilhelm56
Received an email from Organizing for America encouraging visits to Baird's Olympia office:

All this week, OFA members like you will be stopping by local congressional offices to show our support for insurance reform. You can have a quick conversation with the local staff, tell your personal story, or even just drop off a customized flyer and say that reform matters to you.

We'll provide everything you need: the address, phone number, and open hours for the office, information about how the health care crisis affects your state for you to drop off (with the option of adding your personal story), and a step-by-step guide for your visit.

At least Scaredy Bairdy will feel a little love from his peeps.

18 posted on 08/09/2009 4:46:57 PM PDT by They'reGone2000 (I regret having to report THEY'RE BACK.)
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To: jazusamo

“I’m a Republican, but I’ve never had an ax to grind with him. But all he’s done has been wiped out by the statements he’s made.”

I have to agree with this statement. Baird has always been as agreeable as a Dem can be. I’ve met him a couple of times and while I agree with him on very little, I’ve always respected him. At least, I used to. For some reason he has lurched further to the left than I ever thought he was...now he’s just Nancypants’ little bitch-boy.


19 posted on 08/09/2009 4:57:57 PM PDT by Grunthor (Obama has delusions of adequacy.)
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To: Grunthor

I have to agree with your sentiment, though I haven’t met him I’ve followed him pretty close. I believe he caught the wrath of Pelosi after changing his stance on Iraq and is in atonement stage with her.


20 posted on 08/10/2009 5:52:11 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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