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To: lt.america
The focus should not be so much what is in any bill, which many times are the good intentions of people dedicated to public service (benefit of the doubt), but should be those unintended consequences that inevitably happen.

I have to disagree with you there. This administration knows exactly what they're doing with this bill. They're fully aware of the results of nationalized health care.

2 posted on 08/09/2009 11:12:37 AM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but he will give us the shaft.)
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To: LibFreeOrDie
That is why I put benefit of the doubt in parentheses.
3 posted on 08/09/2009 11:14:52 AM PDT by lt.america (Looking for a bailout)
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To: LibFreeOrDie
It costs more and kills more. So what makes it an improvement for socialists? It gives them more power. ObamaCare Jokes Obama Jokes
10 posted on 08/09/2009 11:43:36 AM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: LibFreeOrDie
"This administration knows exactly what they're doing with this bill. They're fully aware of the results of nationalized health care."

Which is- "the needs of the few outweigh the demand for quality and service by the many".

"The needs of the few outweigh economic viability and sustainability".

In the end, Socialist government empire building and the costs associated with it end up costing far more than actually paying the bill for those without insurance who need medical services.
Voluntary charitable donations, which in a society that maintains good Christian moral standards, end up paying for a very large portion of the needs by legitimate sick and poor and needy.

Socialized medicine in which the lazy and unwilling to work are covered by the taxpayer quickly become plagued with abuses to that system. Emergency rooms become packed with new single mothers bringing their babies in every time they get a sniffle or runny nose, older people who think every ache and pain is a symptom of cancer and they are going to die.

Addicts are constantly cruising emergency rooms trying to score prescriptions for opiates, as are drug dealers.

Limited socialized medicine sounds like it can work on paper, but it requires honesty to do so, honesty from those who administrate and administer it, and honesty by those who use it.
Because when these is something being offered "free", there will always be those who swarm in to get their "entitlement" share, as there are sharks hoping to cash in by providing cheap very little for a very lot of taxpayers money.

Then there are those who think they are entitled to everyone elses money, and demand more and more "free" services, and higher quality than those paying for the "free" services these greedy leaches are using can afford for themselves.

Abuse and dishonesty quickly spirals socialized medicines costs far out of control, far exceeding the costs of private insurance structured health care.

There are easy solutions to some of the problems that are making private insurance health care costly. But for some reason DEMONRATS have refused to even look at these solutions.

This tells us that democrats never were interested in providing quality health care to those who legitimately need it. Democrats are only after more government, more control over the people, larger government and less freedom.

13 posted on 08/09/2009 11:52:39 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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