Melee of cyclists / Ogden incident leads to four arrests [Cyclists on a Rampage]

Ogden Standard Examiner ^ | 8/9/2009 | Trent Toone

[Minn]

My concern as a walker in county parks is about the connection of cycling apparel and being a moron.

Which is bikes are better off on roads than trails.

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

For all practical purposes bicycles cause no damage at all.

No road damage, they just piss everybody off.

[Stentor]

This section of the Pennsylvania code is never followed by bike apparel wearing individuals:

Section 3508. Pedalcycles on sidewalks and pedalcycle paths. (a) Right-of-way to pedestrians.-- A person riding a pedalcycle upon a sidewalk or pedalcycle path used by pedestrians shall yield the right-of-way to any pedestrian and shall give an audible signal before overtaking and passing a pedestrian.

[SUSSA]

That's not what happens in the Dallas area of Texas. I've been behind people playing on these toys on Legacy, Custer, Plano Parkway, Preston Rd, Inwood, and the old 121 before they made it a toll rd. They ride along in the middle of the traffic lane at 10 mph or less with an occasional burst of "speed" to 15 or 20 mph. and all those streets have 45 mph speed limits except 121; it was 55 where I used to run into that bunch of clowns.

You call the cops and they say there's nothing they can do about this dangerous behavior.

I don’t mind kids or anyone else playing with these toys on the streets of a subdivision or a residential neighborhood. But these are supposedly adults playing with a child’s toy on main streets making it unsafe for everyone.

There are two women who even pull little trailers with small kids in them as they play with their bikes on Park Blvd. I pointed it out to a cop once and asked why he didn't stop them and have CPS take those kids. He said he didn't like it either but they were within the law.

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

I don't know when their next ride is, but I'm going to find out. This happened about 7 miles from my house. Just my luck, it will probably be a weekday because Critical Mass is full of lowlife libs that are unemployed.

[SUSSA]

How often do you ride with your high beams on a major dr with lots of traffic? Plus there is no inspection to see if the reflectors are that good.

As near as practicable is very subjective.

They ride two and three to a lane and the cops do nothing here.

[fanfan]

Hear, Hear!

[wmfights]

I stop at stop signs and traffic lights. Most cyclists I know do so as well.

Not in Chicago. You would be the exception by a wide margin.

[Mr. Blonde]

That is how the law is written. I would assume the reflector would still be visible from some distance with low beams as well. If you think it is insufficient, call your state representative and have them change the law.

Again, if they are doing that I gave you the statute to tell the police they are breaking when you report them. Clearly riding two or three to a lane is not practicable.

[Minn]

This section of the Pennsylvania code is never followed by bike apparel wearing individuals:

Nope. And many of them are traveling in excess of 20 MPH. Combined with Fido's extended leash, it's an accident waiting to happen. Bikes don't belong on trails used by pedestrians.

[TV Dinners]

I follow the law of the road on my cannondale, that's for sure.
I've made other posts here to the effect that is a cyclist is not following the rule of the road, it is their fault if they get hurt.
I don't like uppity cyclists either... may be the reason I ride the scary phisher off-road then hang with the ‘roadie’ crowd any more.
Happy Cycling!

[InvisibleChurch]

The picture looks made up, like what you'd expect it'd look like if a car ran into a gaggle of cyclists. If it is a real pic, then reality matches imagination.

[WhyisaTexasgirlinPA]

Climate controlled stadium? You think Lambeau imports snow?

I agree cycling takes real effort, unlike driving a freaking car, but to even begin to compare a guy riding a bike to a professional football player is just silly.

[WhyisaTexasgirlinPA]

After a similiar discussion on here a few months ago regarding the “rights” of cyclists, I happened to be driving home through a neighborhood with a stop sign about every 100 yards - as I slowed and stopped at each sign, two bikers just breezed through each one.... I would pass them and keep going, only to stop again and they would pass me again..... I so wanted to find a cop. Sure, they obey traffic rules...

[Melas]

That's not what happens in the Dallas area of Texas. I've been behind people playing on these toys on Legacy, Custer, Plano Parkway, Preston Rd, Inwood, and the old 121 before they made it a toll rd. They ride along in the middle of the traffic lane at 10 mph or less with an occasional burst of "speed" to 15 or 20 mph. and all those streets have 45 mph speed limits except 121; it was 55 where I used to run into that bunch of clowns.

I regularly take Plano to Plano Parkway and all the way into Wylie to visit a friend. Must make me a bad person in your book.

I don’t mind kids or anyone else playing with these toys on the streets of a subdivision or a residential neighborhood. But these are supposedly adults playing with a child’s toy on main streets making it unsafe for everyone.

I presume your repeated use of the word, "toy" is for effect, or perhaps you're simply trying to be inflammatory. Either way, my bicycles are vehicles, not toys. Your wrong-headed opinion changes that not one iota.

There are two women who even pull little trailers with small kids in them as they play with their bikes on Park Blvd. I pointed it out to a cop once and asked why he didn't stop them and have CPS take those kids. He said he didn't like it either but they were within the law.

I'll bet you think you're a liberty loving conservative too. Sad, but funny.

[Melas]

This is what I always find amusing about these threads, usually in the comments in Dallas Morning News. You have your pedestrians who insist that that cyclists are traveling in excess of 20mph, and motorists who insist they’re traveling less than 10mph.

[Melas]

That’s sad. I hate to see cyclists disobey traffic laws for this very reason. It makes us all look bad.

[Plutarch]

These are not cyclists, these are punks who happen to be on bikes.

This is like equating all motorcyclists with the meth dealing Mongol motorcycle gang.

[Melas]

I think he’s comparing apples to apples, ie, world class athletes to world class athletes. Your most out of shape bench warmer in the NFL is in better shape than I am, but compared to a guy like Lance, no comparison. There are no huddles and time outs in cycling to catch your breath.