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To: Fred Nerks
As believable as Eleanor Nordyke, connected to the East West Centre, that lists her written works...who had twins in the 'same hospital' whose announcement we cannot find.

But we do have copies of the Twins Original Certificates of Live Birth. They were published in the Honolulu Advertiser newspaper, from whose site the image below is linked:

The Certificates clearly show the twins were born in Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital. Mrs. Nordyke said she did not remember Stanley Ann or Baby Barry from the hospital, but rather that Toot had later told her that BHO Jr was born in that same hospital. Mrs. Nordyke could have been telling the complete truth about what Mrs. Dunham said, but Mrs. Dunham could have been fudging the story, probably out of habit by then. Liars often start to believe their own lies, especially ones they've told for a long time.

383 posted on 08/09/2009 8:37:46 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

The birth of the twins is not in doubt, is it? The question remains, where is their birth announcement?

Mrs Nordyke said:

“I think it was remarkable that they just so happened to be born within 24 hours of each other and grew up knowing each other,” Nordyke said.

She did not know Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham, while they were in labor together on Aug. 4, 1961, at the old Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital.

But Nordyke was a population research fellow at the East-West Center while Dunham was there. And Nordyke later met Madelyn Dunham — Ann Dunham’s mother and Obama’s grandmother — during a cruise to Tahiti in 2002.

“She was placed at our table on the ship,” Nordyke said. “She sat with us on that ship for three weeks. She told us that her daughter had passed away and that she had raised her grandson, and he was a social worker in Chicago.”

Right. And in 2003, Madelyn wasn’t able to walk without a walking aid, her osteoporosis was so bad...and Obama was a Senator in 2002. Not a ‘social worker’. The twins were born, Eleanor Nordyke was connected to the East-West Centre, and after that, the truth takes a holiday.


384 posted on 08/09/2009 8:49:59 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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