[P-Marlowe]

Look, if someone told you 5 years ago that we would nationalize banks, nationalize automobiles, nationalize health care and give away 2 trillion dollars to wall street you would have said, "That's not going to happen in my lifetime or yours

Wrong.

I have always known that socialism can happen in a heartbeat. History is replete with the rapid evolution of tyranny and the rapid destruction of liberty.

The road to tyranny is easily traveled and is paved with the dust of complacency.

The road to liberty is uphill and is paved with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

[nitzy]

Are you saying that any steps toward socialism and tyranny are natural (according to history and the human tendency) but should be fought against as long as possible? On the other hand no progress can be made in the direction of liberty without bloodshed? Therefor we should fight the individual battles against socialism and tyranny peacefully as long as we can until war is needed? Only after victory is achieved in said war, should we start to think about ways to implement a more free government?

It would be hard to argue against that but all I can say is that I guess I am more of an optimist than you.