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Vehicle-Mounted Active Denial System (V-MADS)
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Posted on 08/08/2009 1:30:49 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld

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Photograph of the demonstration hardware

1 posted on 08/08/2009 1:30:49 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: sonofstrangelove

Israel has been using it already, is this suppose to create some sort of panic by making people think that the Federal Government is going to have these on vehicles for crowd control?

I think not.


2 posted on 08/08/2009 1:33:22 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: Eye of Unk

I agree


3 posted on 08/08/2009 1:34:11 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I don't mind being called tough, because in this racket it's tough guys who lead the survivors.)
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To: sonofstrangelove
millimeter-wave electromagnetic energy

I guess it's better PR than calling them microwaves. Much more pleasant imagery.
4 posted on 08/08/2009 1:35:54 AM PDT by allmost
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To: Eye of Unk

It heats the surface of unshielded skin, feeling like a wave of stinging heat. Tinfoil would ward it off well.


5 posted on 08/08/2009 1:36:36 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: allmost

Exactly


6 posted on 08/08/2009 1:39:00 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I don't mind being called tough, because in this racket it's tough guys who lead the survivors.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

One wonders how well armored the feed horn in the center of the dish is....


7 posted on 08/08/2009 1:39:15 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I swear if I see one used against Americans I am heading straight for it with a 10’ wide Jiffy POP!


8 posted on 08/08/2009 1:42:17 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: allmost

It is a very short wavelength microwave. The common 2450 MHz kitchen microwave oven generates microwaves of about 12 centimeters, or a little less than 5 inches in length. Penetrating power into water-rich bodies is roughly proportional to the wavelength. If beamed at humans, the energy from a kitchen microwave oven would cause serious heating of internal organs. The microwaves from the weapon are a small fraction of an inch in length and cannot penetrate far. It would feel like the heat radiated from a fire or a glowing hot surface.


9 posted on 08/08/2009 1:47:02 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: Eye of Unk

One of those large aluminum sled dishes could be used to mirror it back at the operators....


10 posted on 08/08/2009 1:51:59 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

An umbrella with a space blanket, a survivor reflective blanket should be an effective shield.

Ooooh, I’m soooo afraid!


11 posted on 08/08/2009 1:58:16 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Closer to infrared yes, but still. I just though the term “millimeter-wave electromagnetic energy” instead of microwaves to be a good PR move.


12 posted on 08/08/2009 2:00:21 AM PDT by allmost
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To: Eye of Unk

I’m not sure if the microscopic aluminized surface of one of those blankets would stand up to the energy density. The effect might be like that of popping a dinner plate with gilded decorations into a kitchen microwave oven — induction of currents with a burning of the thin metal. This is because the skin depth of the induced currents in the metal is large compared with the metal’s thickness. Kitchen grade aluminum foil on the umbrella would work better I believe. Turn said umbrella upside down and you can even focus the reflected energy back into a point! (Like sunlight through a magnifying glass which ignites a fire.)


13 posted on 08/08/2009 2:06:36 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: allmost

Actually I don’t know why they don’t just USE infrared. Instead of a magnetron they’d just have a coil like in a space heater, and the dish would be some kind of polished chrome.


14 posted on 08/08/2009 2:10:10 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I’d assume that it’s easier to direct the beam efficiently in this frequency range with existing equipment. Plus, this being a military application, they’d like to have a lethal setting option.


15 posted on 08/08/2009 2:17:06 AM PDT by allmost
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It may be effective in Israel against third world country riots but in all fairness and redneck technology it would utterly fail on the first attempt because we already know what a limited device it really is.

Not to mention the fact that even bringing up a subject like this for discussion is moot because the libbies want an agitated response of panic and fear, well they can go ahead and build their mental Marginot Lines, suits me fine, I’m outta here, got much more pressing needs to look into.


16 posted on 08/08/2009 2:18:48 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: Eye of Unk

A big ole huge reflector broiler, that’s redneck enough to me :-)

A kill would practically call for old fashioned bullets. Incineration alive takes too long.


17 posted on 08/08/2009 2:29:31 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: sonofstrangelove

With the War on Terror over, its first application will be against the mobs - when is the next Tea Party with its’ senior citizens/domestic terrorists?


18 posted on 08/08/2009 3:44:07 AM PDT by MarkT
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To: sonofstrangelove
...peacekeeping, humanitarian missions and other situations in which the use of lethal force is undesirable.

Like in Mogadishu in 1993?
My fear is that our politicians will determine this is all that's needed and send our troops on a pizza delivery mission to some 3rd world hell hole unarmed.
19 posted on 08/08/2009 4:02:11 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: sonofstrangelove
...peacekeeping, humanitarian missions and other situations in which the use of lethal force is undesirable.

Like in Mogadishu in 1993?
My fear is that our politicians will determine this is all that's needed and send our troops on a pizza delivery mission to some 3rd world hell hole unarmed.
20 posted on 08/08/2009 4:02:14 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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