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Let me make clear that I am not a litigant in any law suit about the eligibility of the man who is occupying the White House. Nor am I a lawyer in any such case. I am merely an observer. As such I think that people ought not to act as it those conducting the law suits ought not to proceed in ignorance but actually pay attention to what goes on in the various cases. I myself have in recent days gained some familiarity with the facts of a single case and have examined the materials on a number of web sites that have obtained information on several others.

Attention such as yours is to be greatly encouraged because you do provide facts. I, for example, had not properly researched the Sun Yat Sen question and you have, for which I applaud you. I don’t, however, follow the logic that if a COLB is only partial proof it, therefore, can be offered as full proof. I am fairly busy, actually, and do not have time to post as much as I would like and, since I am not in court on these issues, and am in fact retired from the law but have a good bit of work to do, I cannot, I regret take up your invitation to do research for you in providing links. I do, however, think it inappropriate for the poster to whom I was responding, to simply say that there is some obligation for those seeking information and commenting to prove matters to him based on what was clearly an oversimplified and ill informed position.

Thus I mostly ask questions from the limited amount I do know from having asked them for some time now. You, obviously, are better informed, but even you are making comments that I have reason to doubt. For example, I have seen a large number of reports that various officials state and federal, will not accept a COLB as proof of an actual birth certificate but will insist on the real thing. I myself have had that experience and am even now going through it again. So, despite your obviously greater knowledge, I do not find your response entirely truthful. You seem to want to prove a position that has hardened rather than seeking to find out the full truth of the matter. But I thank you for your response; it has certainly educated me further.

I will be quite curious to see how it plays out in the ongoing litigation and I believe that there is a desperate need for people to have more and better information about that litigation. This situation reflects, I believe, from long experience when I was practicing law, a situation in the courts in which the Rule of Law has deteriorated badly and in which more and closer attention by the public would be very beneficial.

Again, I thank you for your response, which has given me much additional information to examine, but I find it not quite completely on the level on the two points I have mentioned. I find it particularly misleading that you would make a blanket statement about all state and federal officials accepting something like the COLB that the Obama election websites and squads keep insisting is his actual birth certificate when so many people have had the opposite experience and it is not difficult to demonstrate the opposite in statements from various officials. When I was practicing I found that such broad statements have to be examined carefully and here I am suspicious that the broad assertion is true or could in fact be proven in court.