Posted on 08/06/2009 8:20:56 PM PDT by ex-Texan
“That’s because I never said “all nutrients from all foods” is [my] criteria for seeing that this is a public health issue that could lead to malnutrition.”
Then who’s argument are you arguing for if not your own?
“I never set out to make any comment about what might or might not be a “public health issue that could lead to malnutrition.””
But that is what the thread you are posting in is about. If you aren’t here to talk about that, then why are you here?
“What I DID say is that removal of all nutrients from all food is preposterous.”
How is it preposterous that, given time, a hybrid seed crop will contain too little of a percentage of nutrients for the human body to derive sustenance?
Can I take a moment to say that I appreciate this discussion?
My post 109 has caused quite a kerfuffle on this thread, but you have actually tried to find out what I mean, and I appreciate that.
I only meant to point out that hyperbole and absolutes will only make opposition to the Codex look looney and absurd.
If someone tried to say the Codex would result in further—perhaps nearly-exclusive—use of GMOs and hybrids that would further dilute nutrition in the food supply, I would agree completely.
Saying the Codex would set out to remove all nutrients from all foods is preposterous.
“It doesn’t say or show ALL nutrients...”
It has confirmed all nutrients for whom data has been kept for the 50 year study period. Records were not kept in 1950 for magnesium, zinc, vitamin B-6, vitamin E and dietary fiber, nor phytochemicals. And absence of testability does not automatically mean these nutrients are unaffected. Quite the contrary when it is revealed that the mechanism for the nutrient depreciation is modern farming techniques.
“...nor does it say or show ALL crops.”
The study concluded that the most likely explanation was modern farming techniques. That means all crops grown under said techniques. The food in the supermarket is all made from these techniques.
If someday that happens, it will still not result in the removal of all nutrients from all food.
The absolutism destroys credibility.
No, I do not. You must have a very faulty memory.
Nor do I deserve the kind of crude remarks HE throws at me regarding my church affiliation, personal attacks on my pastor, and on me. You don’t know the half of it, trisham.
Still not ALL nutrients from ALL foods (not “crops,” foods—see 109).
Oh, but I AM my church and my pastor is my friend. You attack them, you attack me. It’s plenty personal and I’m asking you to knock it off.
No “memory” is needed, it happened right here on this thread.
I will note for the record that you just took another swipe at me.
Nope.
My church is my family. Maybe you don’t have that kind of relationship in yours, but we do. I’ve been an active member for over 25 years and these people have stood by me in thick or thin. You blast them, you blast me. So knock it off. If you want to be treated with respect, then treat others the same way.
Yeah, please write it all down. I worry about you.
Thank you very much, I appreciate it too.
It’s true that the article about the Codex could have been worded better, but the Codex itself does present a disturbing danger to public health.
The Europeans are fighting it, but it looks like it may sail through here without anyone even noticing it.
The Codex will remove nutrition labels from packaged food, ramp up crop quantity over nutrition in hybrid seed stock, and use government regulations, taxes, and outright banning (depending on the world zone you live in) to reduce or eliminate the availability of supplements and heirloom seed.
People will start suffering from malnutrition and, because of missing labeling on food, not know what is wrong with them. They will then go to their government healthcare provider and be told.. what? With supplements unavailable they will either be given the pain pill, or worse, misdiagnosed and given a cure more deadly than the disease.
Perhaps they will be told they have swine flu or some such, and then given a shot that will in turn actually end up giving them swine flu. When they return to their Government Health Official saying the problem has gotten worse, what will he say? He will probably tell them that the swine flu has ‘mutated’. There will be an uproar, a panic, perhaps even martial law due to WHO and CDC regulations.
The state media will say nothing of the real cause, they will just promote the ‘swine flu’ panic. Only the internet will inform people of what’s going on, perhaps by using articles like the above and threads on FR.
Lay it on thicker now.
Let the insults fall like hail.
That does not equal "...but I AM my church..."
Every member of that church IS the church. WE are the Body of Christ.
Cool your jets.
Nope.
Feel free to reply with a gratuitous personal attack again.
Sorry you flew into the flak fired at me by those who have decided I am their enemy.
You and I have a lot in common, I think.
For instance, the phrase “Round-up Ready”—and the arrogance behind that product—makes me viscerally angry.
I can see you don’t recognize what a true church is, a body of believers who care for one another. Doesn’t that happen in your church or do you just go as your duty and not pay attention to the people around you? I feel badly for you if that’s the case. A church is a living body, not four walls and a door.
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