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Sorry, Orly -- Judge Throws Out Fake Kenyan Birth Certificate
Salon ^ | 8/6/09

Posted on 08/06/2009 4:32:02 PM PDT by steve-b

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To: steve-b
>>>one designed to further discredit the Birthers....<<<
—A lefty fabricates a fake Obambi BC and Birthers are further discredited? That's kinda bizarre thinking.
21 posted on 08/06/2009 4:52:37 PM PDT by Shqipo (A whiff of blowback is in the air.)
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To: freedomwarrior998
All of her briefs are very poorly written, with numerous misspelling and basic procedural errors. Why people think she will be successful in any of this is beyond me.


It's true. She really isn't a very good lawyer. I imagine some of the judges are looking at her motions and thinking that they see better legal work from guys living in the graybar motel and working pro se.

But bless her heart for trying, anyway.
22 posted on 08/06/2009 4:54:35 PM PDT by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: freedomwarrior998

I love her dearly for her efforts to get the One, but I hope she could find a good para-legal to check her work. Only the obots have “proved” it a forgery.
barbra ann


23 posted on 08/06/2009 4:55:44 PM PDT by barb-tex (Regardless of what you may have heard Sarah is not gone!)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Yeah, it says that they are eunuchs and scared rabbits.


24 posted on 08/06/2009 4:56:05 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Milton Miteybad; freedomwarrior998

It’s my understanding that before she became a “birther” she was/is a “truther”. That zeroes her out in my personal book.


25 posted on 08/06/2009 4:59:45 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Impeach now....not next month... now)
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To: steve-b

The question as to which if either of the two docs are legitimate should be easy.

If one is a fifty year old paper doc, and one is pixels, I’d go with the paper. The pixel doc was probably made from the image of the other.

It doesn’t change the underlying question. It distracts from it, but doesn’t change it.

Where is the original Hawaiian birth certificate. And what citizenship did he claim in college.

They keep throwing out noise and fog and fake documents and fakes of fakes, insults and mockery, all to keep from answering what is really a simple question. Where’s the original, and what citizenship did you claim.


26 posted on 08/06/2009 5:01:08 PM PDT by marron
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To: RepublitarianRoger2
I’m thinking we need a “Mark Levin” type to take this on.

No Mark Levin type would touch it. This won't go anywhere at all because of the Hawaiian newspaper birth announcements. Sure, 0 could have been born in Kenya and the announcements be filed in Hawaii... that may have happened. But a reasonable man would see those announcements as completely innocuous.

Orly's explanation for the newspaper announcements strains one's credulity. One would have to be a conspiracy theorist of the nth degree to accept her explanation for them.

I am dropping out of this movement. It is time for the loyal opposition to spend our time fighting his policies, not attacking his legitimacy to be president.

27 posted on 08/06/2009 5:01:20 PM PDT by Guyin4Os (My name says Guyin40s but now I have an exotic, daring, new nickname..... Guyin50s)
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To: steve-b

Now there is a surprise. sarc/off


28 posted on 08/06/2009 5:01:40 PM PDT by jaxon72
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To: FreepShop1
“Why did so many on this forum do so?” You ask why?

Orly may not be polished, we all knowshe is a little rough around the edges but she is on to something that none of us have yet been able to grab. Like many of us, she smell a RAT and wants to get to the bottom of the “birther” story.

One more thing, she has more “BALLS” than you can ever hope to have!

29 posted on 08/06/2009 5:01:59 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: steve-b

So using 39 SS numbers isn’t a problem either?? What has happened to America?


30 posted on 08/06/2009 5:02:07 PM PDT by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: traditional1
but merely that the case was thrown out on technical and/or procedural grounds; not on merit.

No it was thrown out because Orly is a flaming idiot that can't file a proper motion.

31 posted on 08/06/2009 5:02:50 PM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Throwing out the birth certificate for procedural reasons tells me an awful lot. He really really doesn’t want to rule on this!!! If she refiles, I have a feeling he will criticize the way she folded the paper.... The longer we wait for an answer from Orly, the more positive I feel that it is real. I am just very concerned about the safety of all involved.


32 posted on 08/06/2009 5:03:03 PM PDT by mrsadams
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To: steve-b

Gee.... Couldn’t see that coming.

</sarcasm>


33 posted on 08/06/2009 5:04:11 PM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: steve-b
In the order, which can be downloaded in PDF form here, the judge says the motion was improperly filed "for the following reasons: Lacks proper notice; improper form and format; Counsel failed to identify her Cal. State Bar No.; description of motion conflicts or differs from that which counsel entered on Court's e-docket."

Says nothing about the birth certificate.

34 posted on 08/06/2009 5:05:16 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Throwing out a faked document is ‘cover up’??


35 posted on 08/06/2009 5:06:00 PM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: MilspecRob
"Orly is a flaming idiot that can't file a proper motion"

LOL

As I said, there was NO FINDING that the Certificate was a Forgery....that's what I said.

36 posted on 08/06/2009 5:06:17 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gots to worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gots to buy no gas...Obama gonna take care o' me!")
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To: Lurking Libertarian
"There are a lot of conservative law professors in this country, but not one has ever wanted to touch the birth certificate/natural-born citizen cases with a 10-foot pole. I think that says something right there. "

I thought it was odd when the Federalist Society was suspiciously silent, not on the birth certificate, but just on Obama's eligibility based on his father's citizenship status (or lack thereof).

I anticipated that there would be some legitimate debate in conservative legal circles about the semantic intent of "natural born" citizen, and the fact that the court (any court) hasn't given any clarification or guidance with respect to the definition of that term of art.

But, for whatever reason, the only debate - to the extent that there was any - was focused solely on McCain's unique eligibility circumstances, and that was only in the very beginning of the campaign season.

It's interesting that Jonathan Turley (a man who's politics I disagree with, but I respect deeply as a Constitutional scholar) has been the one of the only professors to make much of a public statement about the issue - saying that he believes Obama to be clearly eligible, but that he should release his original BC.

37 posted on 08/06/2009 5:06:49 PM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: FreepShop1
She is such a dope. All you needed to see is her Moscow-whore dye job and pink satin shirt to know this is not someone you want to pin your reputation on. Why did so many on this forum do so?

Where to begin with this rank drivel?

What have done for your country lately, Nathan Hale?

The classic blathering of the Fatass American Couch Potatoe.

38 posted on 08/06/2009 5:07:30 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: ErnBatavia
It’s my understanding that before she became a “birther” she was/is a “truther”. That zeroes her out in my personal book.

First I've heard of this, and I follow all this stuff pretty closely. Care to provide any sort of link or backup to this claim?

39 posted on 08/06/2009 5:09:09 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The only thing standing between us and despotism is the informed orneriness of We the People.)
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To: steve-b

amazing how many people bash her (and how many of them signed up on FR around the elections...)

if you can do better... then STFU and prove it. otherwise you’re just flapping your pie hole and not helping to accomplish anything


40 posted on 08/06/2009 5:09:15 PM PDT by sten
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