The Born Identity [Behold: A Fair and Balanced article on Certifigate]

The Saipan Tribune ^ | August 6, 2009 | Rik and Janel Villegas, Special to the Saipan Tribune

[newfreep]

The money quotes...

The smoking gun in this whole scenario is not whether he was born in Hawaii or Kenya, but it may boil down to a trip Obama took to Indonesia and Pakistan in the summer of 1981 with a Pakistani friend, Wahid Hamid, who attended Occidental College with him.

Obama fails to mention the trip in either of his books, but he did discuss the trip to Pakistan during a speech in San Francisco on April 6, 2008. Obama's campaign press secretary, Bill Burton, confirmed the visit to Pakistan in 1981 on his return from Indonesia, so it is well established that he made the trip.

What makes this so interesting is that the U.S. State Department had Pakistan on a “no travel” list in 1981. Pakistan was under martial law at the time and Americans were prohibited from entering the country. A U.S. passport would not have allowed him to enter Pakistan, but the country accepted an Indonesian or British passport at that time. So the question is: If he could not use a U.S. passport, what passport was Obama offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration on his trip as a young college student?

There are only two possibilities:
1) If he used a British passport it would provide proof that he was either born in Kenya, as the Birther's claim, or he accepted the citizenship of his Kenyan father;
2) if he was traveling with an Indonesian passport, that would tend to prove that he was adopted by his Indonesian stepfather in 1967, and he relinquished whatever citizenship he held, American or British.

[GladesGuru]

“Then too — if the left thought the US was unpopular with “Cowboy Diplomacy,” just imagine how unpopular we’ll be when we eject a black muslim president.”

As the Bamster is removed from the White House, will someone please call the Whaaambulance for those on the Left? Please - all those untreated Leftists thrashing around in Bamster Withdrawal Syndrome would be an ugly scene to behold.

And, all that Leftist drool on the sidewalks would be a health risk.

[RegulatorCountry]

I must be mistaken but I was under the impression natural born required both parents to be citizens.

That was undisputedly the case right up to the 14th Amendment, which extended the rights and obligations of citizenship to former slaves. It actually still is the case, but those who would prefer to open the Presidency to naturalized citizens have seized upon language of the 14th, never intended to have any impact upon Constitutional language elsewhere, dealing with qualifications for President. So, Obama is in murky territory at best, as far as being qualified and eligible for office. And, under the meaning of the term natural born citizen intended by the Founders, he's not now and never has been eligible, due to the circumstances of his birth to a nonresident alien father.

[AFPhys]

This is the first article about this subject that I have ever seen that is comprehensive and logical and balanced.

I now see why the questions that have been bubbling and bubbling have continued to gather strength.

[Redwood Bob]

“It will be interesting to see if any US media outlets publish this.”

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If any do publish it, it will show they have the same low journalistic standards as World Net Daily. For the umpteenth time, but (ALAS!) not the last time, THERE WAS NEVER ANY BAN ON TRAVEL TO PAKISTAN!

1981 NYTimes travel section article on travel to Pakistan:

http://www.nytimes.com/1981/06/14/travel/lahore-a-survivor-with-a-bittersweet-history.html?sec=travel&spon=&pagewanted=5

Letter by U.S. Consul welcoming visitors to Pakistan:

http://www.nytimes.com/1981/08/23/travel/l-lahore-243000.html?sec=&spon=&scp=3&sq=lahore%20travel%201981&st=cse

U.S. State Dept. advisory on 30-day tourist visas available at Pakistan airport:

http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/travel/cis/southasia/TA_Pakistan1981.pdf

Which means that the authors are either lazy, stupid, or liars. Or some combination thereof. BTW, even World Net Daily has been slowly backing away from the “travel ban” story.

[smoothsailing]

You can shout that out all you want, Bob. My post did not address the accuracy of the article, just whether or not it would be published stateside.

You should post your links to someone on this thread who accepts the Pakistan part of the article.

[cynwoody]

What makes this so interesting is that the U.S. State Department had Pakistan on a “no travel” list in 1981. Pakistan was under martial law at the time and Americans were prohibited from entering the country. A U.S. passport would not have allowed him to enter Pakistan, but the country accepted an Indonesian or British passport at that time.

Blithering idiot alert!

There was no ban on travel to Pakistan by US passport holders in 1981. Here is some advice given in August of 1981 by the US Consul in Lahore:

One of the pleasures of the Foreign Service is being able to serve in cities like Lahore, and I would welcome an influx of Americans who might have been inspired to come by Barbara Crossette's piece, ''Lahore, a Survivor With a Bittersweet History'' (Travel Section, June 14).

But please caution them.

While tourists can obtain a free, 30-day, non-extendable visa to Pakistan at the Wagah border crossing (on the rail route from New Delhi to Lahore), tourists cannot make the reverse journey from Pakistan to India through the same crossing unless they already have an Indian visa. The Indians only offer this service, so far as I know, to tourists debarking at airports. We have had a number of Americans stranded in Lahore who did not know this, and they tend to be too discouraged to enjoy the city. JOHN S. BRIMS, United States Consul General, Lahore, Pakistan