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Poll: Use of atomic bombs in WWII OK (Most Americans support use of nukes in Hiroshima)
Washington Times ^ | 8/5/2009 | John Christoffersen

Posted on 08/05/2009 9:21:16 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: ak267
Do not forget Unit 731. The Japanese did not have the resources to build an atomic bomb program but they did have a WMD program of their own. Bio weapons are WMDs.
41 posted on 08/06/2009 2:57:36 AM PDT by magslinger (Inside every father is a Bryan Mills waiting to get out.)
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Happy Hiroshima Day!


42 posted on 08/06/2009 7:32:15 AM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!!!)
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To: kabar
Where do you come up with that nonsense? All Americans were committed to total, unconditional surrender of the Japanese.

Correction. The final surrender was NOT conditional. The Japanese kept insisting on keeping the emperor even after the two bombings. Truman, who said he he didn't want to "kill more of those kids" agreed to this condition. There were plenty of Americans, including Senator Robert A. Taft (Mr. Republican), who criticized FDR (suddenly a good guy to conservatives!) support for unconditional surrender. Many, many Americans criticized the dropping of the bombs/unconditional surrender including Eisenhower, MacArthur, Robert McCormick, the conservative anti-New Deal publisher of the Chicago Tribune, and Herbert Hoover. If you want the details, you can find all the sources in the New Dealers War by Thomas Fleming.

Again, we have a different view of the rules of war. According to all the traditions of just war theory, which date back for centuries, it is immoral to INTENTIONALLY target babes, little old ladies, and other civilians for slaughter simply as a means simply to terrorizing the enemy. The fact that the Japanese killed lots of Chinese babies for the sole purpose of terrorizing the Chinese is not a defense of the U.S. doing the same.

43 posted on 08/06/2009 9:39:36 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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Many, many Americans criticized the dropping of the bombs/unconditional surrender including Eisenhower, MacArthur, Robert McCormick, the conservative anti-New Deal publisher of the Chicago Tribune, and Herbert Hoover.

Hindsight is always 20/20. The buck stopped in the WH and Truman made his decision based on the best information available and past experience with the Japanese, both in war and in peace. How much could Truman trust the Japanese who launched a surprise attack against our forces in Hawaii? Or used suicide attacks against our forces?

Again, we have a different view of the rules of war. According to all the traditions of just war theory, which date back for centuries, it is immoral to INTENTIONALLY target babes, little old ladies, and other civilians for slaughter simply as a means simply to terrorizing the enemy.

Mass warfare and mass weapons of destruction didn't exist centuries ago. Again, we DIDN'T INTENTIONALLY target babies, little old ladiers and other civilians for SLAUGHTER. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were legitmate military targets.

At the time of its bombing, Hiroshima was a city of some industrial and military significance. A number of military camps were located nearby, including the headquarters of the Fifth Division and Field Marshal Shunroku Hata's 2nd General Army Headquarters, which commanded the defense of all of southern Japan. Hiroshima was a minor supply and logistics base for the Japanese military. The city was a communications center, a storage point, and an assembly area for troops.

The city of Nagasaki had been one of the largest sea ports in southern Japan and was of great wartime importance because of its wide-ranging industrial activity, including the production of ordnance, ships, military equipment, and other war materials.Nagasaki had never been subjected to large-scale bombing prior to the explosion of a nuclear weapon there. On August 1, 1945, however, a number of conventional high-explosive bombs were dropped on the city. A few hit in the shipyards and dock areas in the southwest portion of the city, several hit the Mitsubishi Steel and Arms Works, and six bombs landed at the Nagasaki Medical School and Hospital, with three direct hits on buildings there. While the damage from these bombs was relatively small, it created considerable concern in Nagasaki and many people—principally school children—were evacuated to rural areas for safety, thus reducing the population in the city at the time of the nuclear attack.

The fact that the Japanese killed lots of Chinese babies for the sole purpose of terrorizing the Chinese is not a defense of the U.S. doing the same.

My point was that the Japanese should be the last ones to be immune from such type of warfare. They set the standard. The fire bombings of Dresden and Hamburg killed more than the nuclear weapons did in Japan.

I asked you how old you were, because you seem to buy into this proportionate response nonsense and antiseptic war concepts that are really a luxury for those who have overwhelming power and don't fear for their own survival from the enemy. WWII involved our survival as a nation. The attack on Pearl Harbor and subsequent declaration of war against us by the Germans two weeks later galvanized us as never before. Continental Europe was under the control of the Nazis [except for the Soviet Union] and the Japanese were running unchecked in the Far East. And the US was unprepared for war.

Mass warfare has changed the way we fight wars. Whole nations are marshalled into the fight. Troops are supported by a huge civilian infrastructure that supplies the weapons of war, food, ammunition, fuel, etc. In essence, entire countries become legitimate targets. And the objective becomes to break the will of the enemy.

Do you have a problem with our nuclear deterrence or our use of it? Do you believe that the US should adopt a policy of no-first use? Nuclear weapons or even conventional bombs can't distinguish between little old ladies and civilians engaged in the war machine.

44 posted on 08/06/2009 11:21:27 AM PDT by kabar
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To: SeekAndFind

My father was in the Philippines getting ready to invade Japan when the A-bombs ended the war. I guarantee that if you polled the similarly-situated GIs there’d be 100% support for the A-bomb


45 posted on 08/06/2009 11:28:32 AM PDT by StanFran
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To: SeekAndFind

In the ninth grade my son got target by Leftist teachers because he supported up nuking Japan in a paper to a Leftist history teacher. Leftist teachers harassed him and hated him in an organized effort throughout senior year.

I ended up getting three of them fired because leftists always go over the top when they have a victim in their sights. They did not count on his mom who is meaner than they could ever dream of being...


46 posted on 08/06/2009 11:33:07 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: wastedyears

Thank God For the Bomb - Ozzy Osbourne

Like moths to a flame
Is man ever gonna change?
Time’s seen untold aggression
And infliction of pain
If that’s the only thing that’s stopping war

Then thank God for the bomb
Thank God for the bomb
Thank God for the bomb
Thank God for the bomb
Nuke ya, nuke ya

War is just another game
Tailor made for the insane
But make a threat of their annihilation
And nobody wants to play
If that’s the only thing that keeps the peace

Then thank God for the bomb
Thank God for the bomb
Thank God for the bomb
Thank God for the bomb
Nuke ya, nuke ya

Today was tommorow, yesterday
It’s funny how time can slip away
The face of the doomsday clock
Has launched a thousand wars
As we near the final hour
Time is the only foe we have

When war is obsolete
I’ll thank God for war’s defeat
But any talk about hell freezing over
Is all said with tongue in cheek
Until the day the war drums beat no more

I’ll thank God for the bomb
Thank God for the bomb
Thank God for the bomb
Thank God for the bomb
Nuke ya, nuke ya


47 posted on 08/06/2009 11:38:52 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: kabar
"You may be heartened by the poll, but I think it stinks."

Well frankly; I agree that I'd much rather it be much higher in all categories. However, seeing that out country has been practicing creeping liberal indoctrination for the past 40 or so years, I still find it amazing that so many among us still have a basic traditional American standard of common sense left!

As for the other groups sited; I find there to be no surprise at all in those numbers. The race baiters among us have done a wonderful job in keeping the folks on the plantation, and those poll numbers prove it!

48 posted on 08/06/2009 6:38:06 PM PDT by Hillarys nightmare (So Proud to be living in "Jesus Land" ! Don't you wish everyone did?)
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