[SideoutFred]

Since we haven’t had any elections yet, nice try. But the perception that conservatives are loons because they focus on this rather than fixing a broken system is out there. The DNC is helping push it along with a commercial they released yesterday that got heavy play on all the news channels last night.

Real people believe that crap. It’s a war of public opinion and we need to do a better job then focus on this absolute nonsense of a birth certificate.

[SuperLuminal]

"It’s a war of public opinion and we need to do a better job then focus on this absolute nonsense of a birth certificate. "

Who is the "we" that are "focusing" on the birth certificate?

Certainly not the GOP politicians running for, or soon to run for, office.

Certainly not Freeperdom. It's my perception, from reading a substantial portion of the threads here for the past 11 years, that the principal focus by "we" here is on impending tyranny and efforts (political or otherwise) that will be required to prevent its success.

The birth certificate issue is simple to resolve. There have been two presidents since WWII who have not released their educational, health, and business-related documents (Clinton and BO). What is truly unique about BO is that something that is the simplest, most common, and least private (yet most required) of all personal information (a birth certificate) is something he absolutely refuses to produce.

The only "nonsense" about this situation is his absolute refusal to put the whole issue to rest.

However, I do not "focus" on this issue to the detriment of paying attention to the horrific losses of freedom & liberty we have already suffered....and the imminent loss of the few remaining.

As far as being portrayed in public media as "loons", I can remember this being the case when:

• FR led the effort to impeach a sitting president;
• Reagan warned of the consequences an LBJ presidency;
• Reagan called for a missile defense system;
• McCarthy warning of the communist infestation in the entertainment industry;
• My grandfather warning everyone (friends & family) that the Social Security number would eventually be illegally used as a means of identification by government and business; and,
• My grandfather warning everyone (friends & family) that FDR's theft directly from our pay envelopes would never go away.

During the past six decades, any group that stands up to preserve the freedoms & liberties that were protected under the former Constitution have ended up being considered "loons" by the media and their Marxist/Fabian/Grammscian/socialist masters.

The only election I can think of that was lost because of the "loons" labeling was in 64. The media no longer has that kind of control on public opinion.