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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
By “plain meaning” I take it you mean literally. If so the word “kanaph” that is translated “ends” of the earth also has a plain meaning at 2 Chron. 3:11-13, where it is translated as “wing” or “wings” at least eight times.

Evidently there is a shared aspect of wings, ends of the earth, or as “kanaph” is translated in the AV at Ezek. 7:2, “four corners” of the earth.

Wings, four corners, ends, all the plain meaning of “kanaph”.

As for fountains or gouts of water from under ground sources, the Ogallala aquifer covers thousands of square miles and is estimated to have as much water in it as Lake Huron. That's enough water to do a lot of gouting and fountaining.

Without trying to understand how someone uses metaphor, idioms, literal and figurative speech we would still be thinking King Herod really was a fox.

” Who cares if the writers thought the sky was a solid covering like a tent?”

Evidently you do, evidently those persons attacking the veracity of the Scriptures do, evidently I do or I wouldn't comment on it.

225 posted on 08/06/2009 11:48:01 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
By “plain meaning” I take it you mean literally.

Sort of, but I think I mean a little more than that. I don't just mean the literal meaning of a single sentence, I mean the obvious inference to draw from all the descriptions taken together. If I write, once, that "the curtain of night fell across the city," it'd make sense to take it as a metaphor. But if I write in several places that the lights switched on in the roof of the sky, and the rain fell through holes in the sky, and the sky covered the earth like a tent, you might conclude that I actually thought the sky was solid.

Especially if I never wrote anything to make you think otherwise. Is there anyplace that the Bible describes the earth, unequivocally, as a ball or sphere, or the celestial objects as not attached to anything but moving freely in vast space?

Evidently there is a shared aspect of wings, ends of the earth, or as “kanaph” is translated in the AV at Ezek. 7:2, “four corners” of the earth.

Yes. They're flat things with edges.

As for fountains or gouts of water from under ground sources, the Ogallala aquifer covers thousands of square miles and is estimated to have as much water in it as Lake Huron. That's enough water to do a lot of gouting and fountaining.

So now you're arguing that the fountains are actual fountains? I thought they were a metaphor. If the fountains are real, then, what are the sluices?

Evidently you do, evidently those persons attacking the veracity of the Scriptures do, evidently I do or I wouldn't comment on it.

I "care" mainly out of historical curiosity. I'm not trying to prove anything about the value of the Bible. I think the fact that the people who actually set the words down thought they lived on a flat surface under a dome, and so passed what they were inspired to write through that filter, has little to do with the essential truth of what they wrote. A child, learning that the earth was a ball and people lived on the other side, might think they must be standing upside down. That mistake doesn't change the essential truth that they learned.

BTW, "who cares" is a common idiom to express the fact that the speaker himself doesn't care.

232 posted on 08/07/2009 9:25:24 AM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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