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To: john in springfield

If I’m wrong, I’m wrong. I’ve mentioned this 10-20 times, in great detail. You’re the first person to give me any sort of answer either way. You are saying that they did use books and pages. I do not know.

In Kenya, there were not Birth Certificates. The only record is in a book. When the birth document was requested, the book was found and the document was created.

I still have not yet seen any Australian birth doc with book and page on it. Yes, there aren’t many, but there are some going back to 1939, and they don’t include the words “book” and “page”. I’m talking about naming conventions, classification systems. I’m not sure that you know if they used the naming classifications of “book” and “page”.

And in terms of the “pwned”, I don’t thing there were many, if any, that have said that they’re sure the Kenyan doc was legit. About Bomford himself, there are some who think he was in on it in some way, others who think he didn’t have the hard copy to compare it to, and others, like yourself, who believe he was telling the truth and the Aussie doc is legit.

And what bothers me is that there are various flaws with the Aussie doc that others have mentioned, but the MSM jumped to the conclusion that the Aussie doc was legit and didn’t give it a seconds thought. I’d like to see the smug MSM knocked down.

We’ll just have to see. I do appreciate that you answered my question on point.


369 posted on 08/05/2009 2:10:36 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom
And I do appreciate your answer as well.

You are saying that they did use books and pages. I do not know.

Not really. To be perhaps much more precise in my own answer, I'm saying that I don't know either, but I would just about be surprised if they didn't, certainly in 1964.

And this is based on my own personal experiences (which, granted, is in the United States) of going through public records dating from that era and earlier. All of the public records I've encountered in my own experience were stored in books. And documents referring to those records indexed them by book and page.

I did do at least some online search for Australian birth certificate images, but the problem is that the vast majority of the ones I've found online, even of certificates from say the 1960s or so, seem to be copies that were produced after computerization took over. For example, a certificate of someone born in 1960 that was produced in 2002.

And yes, there were some that I didn't see any kind of book or page reference on.

It seems to me that maybe there are often actual one-page certificates, and then there are records in books. We really need an Australian who knows about public records to weigh in to bring any real authority to the discussion.

371 posted on 08/05/2009 2:18:55 AM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: truthfreedom

Currency.

The Currency in Kenya since 1921 has been in Shillings and CENTS.

“A brief monetary history:

* Indian currency, till 1905
* British East Africa Rupee = (Indian Rupee) = 100 Cents, till 1920
* British East Africa Florin = (Rupee) = 100 Cents, 1920-1921
* British East Africa Shilling = (1/2 Florin) = 100 Cents, 1921-1966
* Kenya Shilling = (East Africa Shilling) = 100 Cents, from 1966 “

Up until 14 February 1966, Australian Currency was in Pounds, Shillings, and Pence. A typical price might be 7 shillings and 6 pence, usually written as 7s 6d

In Kenya, 7 East African Shillings and 6 cents would be written as 7s 6c

That would be a little odd, though not impossible. 7s and 50c would be fine, even 7s and 10c or 7s and 5c.

They’d stopped issuing 1c coins in 1962, as the bronze they were made of was worth far more than 1/100 of a shilling, or about 1/5 of a 1962 US cent. But not impossible, bureaucracies take a long time to change.

Source : Krause, Chester L. and Clifford Mishler (2003). 2004 Standard Catalog of World Coins: 1901–Present. Colin R. Bruce II (senior editor) (31st ed. ed.). Krause Publications. ISBN 0873495934.

Of course maybe the “7s 6d” on the supposed Kenyan certificate means something else entirely, and is purely by coincidence in the same spot as the “7s 6d” price on the South Australian one.

And if you believe that, I have a Wonderful Harbour Bridge to sell you. Cash please, no cheques.


378 posted on 08/05/2009 2:39:31 AM PDT by Zoe Brain (Rocket Scientist, Naval Combat System Architect)
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