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What If Obama Really Was Born in Kenya?
Slate ^ | August 3, 2009 | Brian Palmer

Posted on 08/04/2009 3:21:40 AM PDT by Zakeet

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To: mad_as_he$$

Could be the Clinton’s coming back for revenge and pinning 0 down.
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Girlfriend is posthaste to South Africa

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161 posted on 08/04/2009 5:57:55 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: RegulatorCountry

That’s a nice speech. Did you even read what I wrote? The constitution leaves it up to the Congress to determine what a natural born citizen is. The Congress passed the immigration and naturalization act many years ago and has updated it a number of times. Most recently in 2001 of which former Senator Nickles was a member of. In the immigration and naturalization act it specifically states that a child born to two U.S. citizens is indeed a natural born citizen of the U.S. It really does not get any plainer than that. Perhaps former Senator Nickles should read the constitution and the immigration and naturalization act as well.


162 posted on 08/04/2009 6:02:47 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Guenevere

On track...just look at what is happening at the town halls this summer.


163 posted on 08/04/2009 6:04:18 AM PDT by Miss Didi ( "After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Victor

I think that was tried in Little Rock. Bottom line, POTUS has the guns, and I envision no scenario in which the military would allow marshals or anyone else to depose an elected president.


164 posted on 08/04/2009 6:06:55 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: Tennessee Nana
Yup and Bill is running distraction in NORK.
165 posted on 08/04/2009 6:07:41 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit The law will be followed, dammit!)
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To: Zakeet

Many civil wars for succession were fought in Rome after the Republic broke down.

It’s clear that the authority if the Constitution has been severely undermined already. If the Kenyan Imposter was allowed to stay in office after having been proved a fraud, civil war or submission would be the only options.


166 posted on 08/04/2009 6:07:56 AM PDT by y6162 (uish..)
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To: cripplecreek

Is it possible that they suspect something so now they’re floating the ‘what-if, so-what’ idea?

The article exists solely to inform the reader than even if it is true there is nothing that can be done about it legally.

Might as well either drop it or lay back and enjoy it, huh?


167 posted on 08/04/2009 6:09:48 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Kenya? Kenya? Kenya just show us the birth certificate?)
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To: mad_as_he$$

They are a nice long time married couple...

:)


168 posted on 08/04/2009 6:11:54 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: mad_as_he$$

Funny how Bubba is suddenly involved in the North Korea situation.


169 posted on 08/04/2009 6:11:56 AM PDT by Miss Didi ( "After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
The constitution leaves it up to the Congress to determine what a natural born citizen is.

No, the Constitution leaves immigration and naturalization up to Congress. Redefining specific terms of art within the Constitution itself by an Act of Congress is not possible. It requires Constitutional amendment.

170 posted on 08/04/2009 6:15:26 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Zakeet
***BIRTHERS "CHASING THEIR TAIL" ALERT***


171 posted on 08/04/2009 6:17:44 AM PDT by VaBthang4 (He Who Watches over Israel will Neither Slumber nor Sleep.)
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To: wintertime

***I doubt that our Founding Fathers ever imagined that the entire congress would be a united treasonous front.***

And that the treasonous media would be their enablers. Thomas Paine and Benjamin Franklin would be appalled. The Fourth Estate is our Fifth Column.


172 posted on 08/04/2009 6:20:48 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Okay dude, you want to win an argument rather than finding out what is correct. No reliable people ever questioned the fact that McCain was eligible to become President but I guess you and a few small minority of people know better.

The reason that the Obama issue is alive is because of what the laws that Congress put down at the time were. That is the immigration and naturalization act of 1952.


173 posted on 08/04/2009 6:22:03 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Victor

Federal marshals...

Would the courts issue such an order against Obama, a so called sitting president ???

I think Biden would not cause trouble...

But Obama will not willing give up his ill gotten toys and gains..


174 posted on 08/04/2009 6:23:51 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Zakeet

I wrote the second and third paragraph yesterday. Note the last paragraph because this particular lib writer goes to prove that they will claim that Obama has proven his natural born status and thus admit it’s a necessity BUT if it proves that he indeed wasn’t qualified via natural born status then a) it doesn’t really matter and b) even if a removal was sought legally it would be impossible to pursue to success:

I’ve found discussing the issue with Obamots much easier since Janice Okubo reiterated her statement from November that she has seen the long form BC and deems it authentic. By doing so she makes the official claim that a) the COLB is sufficient to prove natural citizen status but still is in essence a certificate for a certificate and thus b) by stating she has seen the long form BC in private she has officially admitted that the most detailed and original document has still not seen the light of day, thus shooting down the lib argument that the BC has been released.

I always like to preface the discussion by cornering the respective lib from the get-go by highlighting that since they assert that Obama has proven his natural birth status to their satisfaction, they are tacitly admitting that being a natural born citizen is a requirement and needs to be authenticated.


175 posted on 08/04/2009 6:24:06 AM PDT by torchthemummy ("...end up eating a steady diet of government cheese...and living in a van down by the river!" M.F.)
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To: livius
Is there anything that could make Obama lose his media support? I don't know.

If the "media" goes under - he'll lose their support.

176 posted on 08/04/2009 6:27:34 AM PDT by GOPJ ( Obama "the joker" creates terror by chaos and confusion - pitting people against each other-FR:KitJ)
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To: nevergore
This is soooooo textbook political black ops it would be laughable except for the fact it is working.....

Very possible. That's why I agree not to apply much intensity. The fact is Hawaii has restated that they have the long form, they have verified the long form's authenticity. Thus they have once again proven that the COLB is a certificate for a certificate and that libs are lying when they say the BC has been released.

For me that's all I need to say. I just want to force libs to confront the fact that the original, long form has not been released. I usually tag on that this could be the biggest rope-a-dope in history.

177 posted on 08/04/2009 6:30:09 AM PDT by torchthemummy ("...end up eating a steady diet of government cheese...and living in a van down by the river!" M.F.)
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To: petercooper

A woman named Orly Taitz (sp?) has produced a copy of a kenyan birth certificate. Someone has posted a fake Aussie BC that makes it look like the kenyan certificate was copied from it... but evidence points to the Aussie BC being a forgery. Time will tell.

LLS


178 posted on 08/04/2009 6:30:17 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: RegulatorCountry

My understanding is that if it requires statutory authority to make someone a citizen then that itself precludes one from being a Natural Born citizen.

Natural Born status cannot be created by statutes.


179 posted on 08/04/2009 6:30:20 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Kenya? Kenya? Kenya just show us the birth certificate?)
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To: Tennessee Nana
he did not have the legitimate position to choose anyone as the running mate for the D candidate... So Biden was not a bona fide running matre...

He didn't choose Biden, the Convention did.

And there's nothing in the Constitution about "running mates" President and Vice-President are entirely separate offices.

180 posted on 08/04/2009 6:30:38 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I hope Sarah will start a 2nd party soon)
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