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To: savedbygrace

As I understand it, any person who is born here (native born) is a US citizen—even if his father was a foreign national. Hence, a Russian girl who’s father was a KGB guy at the old USSR’s embassy in Washington, is a US citizen. She has, by the way, taken advantage of it. She lives and works here in America as a US citizen.

My son was born in a US military hospital in the old W. Germany. US military hospitals in foreign countries are considered US territory. That is part of the Status of Forces Agreement the US negotiates with every country in which we station troops. However, because my son was born in W. Germany he also was a citizen of that country. My wife and I had the W. German citizenship annulled. I was in the US Army then. If we had rotated back to W. Germany after he became 18 years old (and he was still our dependent) he could have conceivably been drafted into th3e W. German Army.

We actually had a guy in my unit at the time (1965-68) who had just the reverse happen to him. He was in the US of W. German parents. They never annuled his US citizenship. He was drafted in the US Army and stationed in W. Germany. His English was excellent—as was his German. It was a great asset having him in the unit. He was a good soldier.

Also, as I understand it, as parents we could annul the W. German citizenship. But not the US citizenship. Why? Because he was born of two American parents on “US soil”. Only my son could annul his US citizenship and then he would have to wait until he was 21.


762 posted on 08/03/2009 8:17:47 AM PDT by dools007
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To: dools007; Carry_Okie
Hence, a Russian girl who’s father was a KGB guy at the old USSR’s embassy in Washington, is a US citizen.

Not if both parents were embassy staff. The 14th amendment is supposed to exclude “persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers.” However, if the mother was a US citizen, then the baby is also.

782 posted on 08/03/2009 8:42:12 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Obama's multi- trillion dollar agenda would be a "man caused disaster")
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To: dools007

Sounds like you are not understanding the important distinction between U. S. Citizenship and Natural Born U. S. Citizenship.

But if both you and your wife are U. S. Citizens, and not dual citizenship holders, then your children are Natural Born U. S. citizens, IMO.

Also IMO, for the most part, the place of birth is a red herring. There are exceptions to that statement, but they are not relevant WRT your family’s situation. Again, IMO.


804 posted on 08/03/2009 9:03:45 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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