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To: Jim Robinson

This is just weird. Mombass wasn’t part of Kenya in 1961.
Mombasa was part of Zanzibar until 12 December 1963.


62 posted on 08/02/2009 5:23:52 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (thirst for absolute power is the natural disease of monarchy - Thomas Paine)
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To: BuffaloJack
I don't know anything about it, but Wikipedia said:

On 1 July 1895, it became part of Britain's Kenya protectorate (the coastal strip nominally under Zanzibari sovereignty).

Mombasa was part of the state of Zanzibar until 12 December 1963 when it was ceded to be incorporated into the newly independent state of Kenya.

128 posted on 08/02/2009 5:55:44 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: BuffaloJack; All
Buffalo Jack made a really good point that many here are ignoring. Regardless of whether this particular document is a fake or not, this will still be a valid point if another supposed Kenyan BC surfaces that also shows "Mombasa" as his birthplace:
This is just weird. Mombass wasn’t part of Kenya in 1961.
Mombasa was part of Zanzibar until 12 December 1963.

Here's some further verification:

"Officially this coastal strip still belonged to Zanzibar until ceded to a newly independent Kenya in 1963."

The coast city of Mombasa was not technically part of Kenya in 1961 when Obama was born. It was part of Zanzibar. So why would Obama's father take his pregnant wife there to give birth and not to, say, the Kenyan capital city of Nairobi? You'd think he'd at least want his son born in his own country, if not in Hawaii? Why a coastal city, far from his home village and far from the capital, that was really part of Zanzibar?

135 posted on 08/02/2009 5:56:44 PM PDT by saquin
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To: BuffaloJack
This is just weird. Mombass wasn’t part of Kenya in 1961. Mombasa was part of Zanzibar until 12 December 1963.

According to another poster, the coastal province of Kenya belonged to Zanzibar earlier, but the Brits were ceded the right to control it as long as they left sharia law or whatever in place.

When the British empire was breaking up, the people in the province wanted to be an independent country--or if that wasn't possible, preferred to join Kenya rather than Zanzibar. Which they did, a year or so before the BC date. It's not unlikely that they would have referred to themselves as the Republic of Kenya at the time the certificate was dated.

Sorry I didn't bookmark the post I'm citing, but that's the gist of it from memory.

267 posted on 08/02/2009 6:50:30 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: BuffaloJack

No offense, but it says Mombasa DISTRICT. “The town is also the headquarters of Mombasa District which, like most other districts in Kenya, is named after its chief town.”

On 1 July 1895, it became part of Britain’s Kenya protectorate (the coastal strip nominally under Zanzibari sovereignty).

Mombasa was part of the state of Zanzibar until 12 December 1963 when it was ceded to be incorporated into the newly independent state of Kenya.

BUT it was the Mombasa District in the Kenya protectorate.
Not an error on that document. Makes it even MORE feasable it could be genuine.


320 posted on 08/02/2009 7:23:49 PM PDT by MestaMachine (OREO, Milk's favorite cookie. At least that's what my TV said.)
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To: BuffaloJack
Mombasa was part of Zanzibar until 12 December 1963.

It a 1964 copy of the 1961 document, allegedly.

593 posted on 08/02/2009 11:07:00 PM PDT by TheThinker
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