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To: Jim Robinson; All
I for one am cautiously optimistic. This is a document that is fairly easy to authenticate if it is real. If it is not, it is easy to put away.

There are duplicate Kenyan records in Great Britain. If the Birth Certificate is in Book 44B page whatever it was it should be easy to find. Further, there are names of people who held public positions. There is a signature of one of those people. If the names match up and the signature matches up then it lends credibility to the document.

Finally, I'm split about the Republic of Kenya thing. However, it should be fairly easy to verify whether that heading was used at that time.

My advice is to remain cautiously optimistic and verify the document. Neither accept it, nor reject it based upon partial information.

It is at very least VERY VERY INTERESTING. I love the time line and how it matches up with the divorce. Further, I'm wondering if Zero's long form Hawaiian Birth Certificate was filed as a non-hospital verified BC. I think they have BC 1-5 for verification. If it is simply verified by the family it would prove NOTHING and they know it would make the issue worse. That may be why they refuse to show it.

318 posted on 08/02/2009 7:22:16 PM PDT by politicalmerc
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To: politicalmerc
It is at very least VERY VERY INTERESTING. I love the time line and how it matches up with the divorce.

I've been trying to understand the document's chain of custody, assuming it's not a forgery. Why would anyone other than Zero's parents have ordered the document, and why would it not presently be in Zero's possession? About the only semi-plausible theory I've been able to think of is that Stanley Ann's lawyer ordered the BC in support of her divorce petition. And instead of turning it over to her, he left in his files, where someone found it recently and sent it off to Orly.

Of course, a forger would have thought of the custody chain implausibility issue and might well have chosen the February 1964 date with the divorce in mind.

342 posted on 08/02/2009 7:35:01 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: politicalmerc

Brilliant post here and I think that why Orly is on the way to the UK.


350 posted on 08/02/2009 7:39:08 PM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: politicalmerc; Jim Robinson; All
My advice is to remain cautiously optimistic and verify the document. Neither accept it, nor reject it based upon partial information.

Exactly. Let's verify it thoroughly.

362 posted on 08/02/2009 7:43:32 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: politicalmerc
I love the time line and how it matches up with the divorce.

January 20, 1964: Stanley Ann files for divorce

February 17, 1964: date document in question purportedly issued

March 5, 1964: Decree of Divorce issued dissolving Stanley Ann's marriage to BHO, Sr.

Stanley Ann's divorce attorney:

George L. T. Kerr : In Memoriam

Chun, Kerr, Dodd, Beaman & Wong, with great sadness, reports the passing of one of its senior partners, George L. T. Kerr.

George Lambert Tickner Kerr was born December 18, 1933, in Englewood, New Jersey. He graduated from the Manlius School near Syracuse, New York, in 1951. He earned his A.B. degree in German and English at Hamilton College in Clinton, New York, in 1955. He then attended Syracuse University College of Law, graduating in 1958. In the same year, he completed U.S. Navy Officer Candidate School in Rhode Island and was assigned to the 14th Naval District Legal Office, Pearl Harbor, where he served as a judge advocate.

After leaving the Navy in 1962, Mr. Kerr went to work as an attorney for Henshaw, Conroy and Hamilton, where he became a partner. In 1970, along with Ed Chun and Bill Dodd, he founded the firm today known as Chun, Kerr, Dodd, Beaman & Wong. Mr. Kerr specialized in business, corporate, securities and financial institutions law, and was one of Hawaii’s leading authorities in these areas. He received an “AV” rating from Martindale-Hubbell Legal Directory, and was also named in The Best Lawyers in America as one of only seven Hawaii lawyers in that publication’s section on Corporate law.

Over a 20-year period, Mr. Kerr served as an arbitrator for securities and arbitration associations. He taught Securities Regulation Law at the University of Hawaii School of Law from 1975-1976 as a visiting professor. He had also been an instructor in English, German, Commercial Law and Real Estate Law for the American Institute of Banking, U.S. Armed Forces Institute and others from 1960 to 1974. He was a member of the Hawaii State, New York State and American Bar Associations and was admitted to practice before all Hawaii courts, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit and the U.S. Supreme Court.

Mr. Kerr spent 24 years as a trustee of Le Jardin Academy in Kailua, and chaired the Board of Trustees from 1975 to 1987. He served as a moderator of Central Union Church from 1976-1977, and in 1997 was elected a trustee. He served on the board of directors of the Hawaii Conference United Church of Christ from 1976-1979, and was chairman in 1978-1979. He also was finance chairman of the Republican Party of Hawaii from 1991-1994.

Diagnosed with prostate cancer in January 1994, George devoted himself to helping other men with the disease. From 1995 until his death, he was regional director for US TOO! International, a prostate cancer support group network. He headed two prostate cancer support groups on Oahu, and started other groups on Maui and Kauai. In 1997, the American Cancer Society honored him with its Patient Service Award for his volunteer work. George died on August 20, 1998, at Saint Francis Hospice in Honolulu, just eleven days after being interviewed for a TV documentary on prostate cancer. The hour-long program was nationally broadcast on public television stations in June, 1999.

George Kerr’s death is a great loss to our firm, to the legal community, and to his wife, Elspeth (”Eppie”), and his two children, Keoki and Sissy. His intelligence, humor, and strength of character are sorely missed by everyone who knew him.

508 posted on 08/02/2009 9:17:12 PM PDT by Ahithophel (Padron@Anniversario)
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