Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid
Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]
The rabbit is inviting you down the rabbit’s diversion hole.
Keeping up with David...
# 7,449.
Remember Wag the Dog?
There were people who swore up and down that the remembered hearing the “Old Shoe” song when they were kids...
If it were true, this bill would not be necessary. Unfortunately it is tied up in committee. Which means it is not being voted upon. And with the Demonrats in charge, it is unlikely to get out of committee.
I just received this email from a JD to undisclosed recipients.
“… if you make an appointment, you can look at it, the original document.”
http://tcotreport.com/espero1.html
The result of this law would be that the Obama BC would be damaged, vandalized, defaced, altered, substituted, totally unusable for forensic purposes.
There should NOT be public access to original docs. Only forensic experts should handle these things. The DOH clerks cannot keep track of regular public access.
Btw, look at this for motivation:
“… His website states that it his personal goal to be the first United States Senator of Filipino heritage.”
Betcha he’s a Dem.
Yep, he is!
“… Hawaii Democratic State Senator Will Espero.”
Did you see the Kenyan BC with tattered edges and a rip at the top of the page?
Sorry just joined up and may have missed it but I could not find it readily in this thread.
Well I do know some things that I haven't posted. We are operating in an environment in which the enemy has great power and has in fact exercised some fairly serious muscle against individuals who have been involved in this topic.
I think the ultimate question of fact is whether he was born in Kenya or Hawaii.
I initially resolve that issue fairly clearly myself because in late 2007 and early 2008, there were still lots of pieces of hard evidence. It was obvious that the Hawaii Birth Document didn't certify anything about the birth record but was simply glorified hearsay--and also fraudulent which made you wonder why they had to fraud it.
There were lots of secondary reports of statements by people with first hand knowledge that he was born in Kenya; Barack himself somewhere said his mother was in Kenya 72 hours before he was born--how did she get back and when. The Susan Blake video interview was particularly compelling to me because I have some direct personal first hand knowledge of the BOAC track between British East Africa and the West Coast of the US in that time period.
On balance, if you got to a judicial determination of fact based on the bare record at that time, even if you didn't have the conclusive record; an independent trier of fact, knowing what I knew then, would have come to the unshakable conclusion that Obama was born in Kenya. And around that time period, I did learn of an original record (which may or may not see the light of day).
I just don't see any room for doubt on the basic factual question--he was born in Kenya.
Now having said that, you need to keep in mind that many times, the legal argument doesn't always come out with a result that even reflects the facts.
The consequences to the modern US polity of this battle ought to be material. The government might fall.
So in that context, no one should have any real comfort in how the end game will play out. Any forecast at this point is likely to be incomplete at best.
How so? - even a cursory glance shows up several differences.
"How do you figure the Aussie one is phoney, too."
Go back through the thread. We found several points of inconsistancy, the most important being that the text floats over the creases in the paper. - Also Bomford is the guy's assumed alias as per court documents where he was convicted of fraud last week. His name is Bamford, and Bomford is one of his listed aliases.
That was an artifact from Freeper Salamander’s effort to make the exhibit document more legible. She has explained that ad infinitum, apparently to no avail.
That's a good one, but not what I had in mind. Somebody here posted an interview, or part of an interview with a woman with a foreign-sounding name (could have started with an M) who claimed to have been Barry's babysitter while Ann went to school. I think this was when Ann was back in Seattle for the 2nd time after he was born. I think she lived in a house that time -- or perhaps an apartment, or duplex. The lady said that she had a daughter a couple of years older than the baby and that he was 7 months old. The lady said that she knew that was accurate because her daughter was no 50 (at the time of the interview.)
Why doesn’t someone search all of the old hospital records for his mother and determine if in fact she was admitted on the days in question?
She is dead, so they can’t stop this type of research.
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MHG...
You as usual have been a gentleman...
You have not insulted me...
Thank you for your continued good manners, good humor, and most welcome knowledge...
David:
Your post is right on. The courts do make political decisions. They have been doing so since the founding of this country and before.
Yeah..
Check the stables too...
Only added to the thread....as were others.
If Barry was quietly naturalized by the CIA at Columbia, Sasha and Melia would be natural-born citizens. The girls may also be natural-born citizens if Barry was naturalized at birth due to being the son of Frank M Davis. We need access to Barry’s vital records and passport files among others to be sure.
As Malia’s self-appointed Presidential campaign manager, you should be joining us in calls for Barry to be transparent.
Do a search on the name ‘Maxine Box’ ... that is the interview to which you’re trying to allude.
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