Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid
Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]
Good find! :)
except for any discovery as to which Plaintiffs can demonstrate, to the satisfaction of Magistrate Judge Nakazato, is necessary for the purpose of opposing the Motion to Dismiss
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AHHHHHHH
I believe that would be any and all documents are up for grabs and discovery ???
Especially the long form BC...would be “necessary for the purpose of opposing the Motion to Dismiss”
Fine with me. The American public can just stew in it for a while and see where it goes from there. I'd predict the stew would eventually boil over.
Along with the duplicitous government.
Judge Carter issued a ruling today granting the defenses motion to end discovery until he has ruled on the Defense motion to dismiss. No discovery until sometime after October 5th. If he doesn't dismiss the case, that is.
Looks like another victory by Obama in his endeavor to keep his life a closed book.
I guess it’s none of our business.
"Court hereby GRANTS Defendants’ Ex Parte Application for Limited Stay of Discovery.
All discovery herein shall be stayed pending resolution of Defendants’ Motion to Dismiss, except for any discovery as to which Plaintiffs can demonstrate, to the satisfaction fo Magistrate Judge Nakazato, is necessary for the purpose of opposing the Motion to Dismiss. The Clerk shall serve this minute order on all parties to the action."
Oh, see you beat me to it. ;-)
No it’s not a victory for Barry Dunham-Soetoro...
Judge Carter just delayed ordering discovery until Oct 5, when the hearing for MTD is held...
It would be improper to order discovery now and then agrtee to the MTD on Oct 5...
I dont think that this will be dismissed so the discovery will be ordered Oct 5...
We cant go on without an eligible person as president...
Without a sitting president, we are not a sovreign nation..
At best right now we have a dictatorship...without a coup...
Plus they can have some discovery before Ocy 5...
” except for any discovery as to which Plaintiffs can demonstrate, to the satisfaction fo Magistrate Judge Nakazato, is necessary for the purpose of opposing the Motion to Dismiss.”
“Yes, Judge Nakazato...we find it is necessary to have discovery of the long form BC for the purpose of opposing the motion to dismiss”
Interesting thread...
Judge applies different standard to Obama than to Orly Taitz
“Counsel makes these allegations although a “short-form” birth certificate has been made publicly available which indicates that the President was born in Honolulu, Hawaii on August 4, 1961.
Bearing in mind that the picture Land refers to has never been authenticated,”
“Does Land have “an original certificate of authentication” for the picture of a Hawaiian COLB? Has he authenticated that Hawaiian COLB? Is a picture of a document the same as the document itself? Apparently to Land it is.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2342139/posts
Not only that, but at least an actual picture can be held in one’s hand...touched. A jpeg (picture) in the ether’s of the “internet” isn’t even THAT much.
Two pieces of data are all that are required to warrant the process continue and not be dismissed: the CoLB Obama has exhibited Online needs to berepresented in fcat rather than an image of it on the Internet; the Senate resolution signed onto by Obama regarding how McCain is deemed a nature born citizen. With those two documents the judge can find that Obama contradicts his own agreed Senate resolution when it comes to his issues of eligibility since he cannot meet the standard he signed onto for McCain, and the CoLB if genuine affirms that Obama’s father was not an American citizen thus again the standard he signed onto for McCain for NBC is not met by his own admission. This should lead to further discovery to authenticate the CoLB because if found to be a fraudulent document, the issue of NBC is once again undetermined. Ancillary to this are the adoption files and subsequent national citizenship Obama may have used to enter Occidental college and apply for a passport to travel. But for MTD, only the CoLB and the Senate resolution are required to show Obama’s duplicity and thus raise suspicion of ineligibility.
Orly seems to expect that if discovery is ordered, she can then subpoena the holder of the 1964 Kenya certification as well as Lucas Smith, have them bring their documents to a deposition where they would be interrogated..er...deposed by both sides, and then an effort would need to be made to get Kenya to cooperate in a thorough examination of the documents. If Kenya refuses to cooperate, a public campaign to shame them into cooperation might be needed.
Also in discovery, each side would present the expert constitutional witnesses who will testify as to their theories regarding the meaning of “natural born citizen” in the Constitution and whether Obama qualifies.
It is possible that a quo warranto case could be mounted, like that advocated by Leo Donofrio, when a party specifically injured by Obama during his presidency, such as Chrysler dealers shut down, would have standing and a jury would decide whether Obama was a natural born citizen. In quo warranto, my understanding is that the burden of proof shifts to Obama to prove his eligibility.
This sounds promising to force OBOZO to provide his documents. What are the odds this will occur?
ps: with apologies to Dusty I'm just "wishin' & hopin' & prayin"
Wait no longer:
Judge Carter Issues Stay of Discovery in California Eligibility Case.
I wonder if Orly running her mouth and posting outlandish claims on the internet and on youtube seeking to make noise regarding the discovery —as if Judge Carter had already granted full discovery— led Judge Carter to clarify for poor Orly that ONLY discovery related to the MTD was allowed at this stage?
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/
Leo says a whole lot of citizens have gained standing to bring quo warranto since Jan 20. I would be a long hard slog through an uncharted swamp with many roadblocks, from what I read. But like Orly's efforts, the media would follow it and Obama’s continued refusal to release his vital records would undermine his authority to push his agenda even more.
Carter did not end all discovery, just limited discovery to relevance to the MTD.
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The long form BC that HI has...
and maybe plus the school records etc...
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