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NYT: Israel not serious about peace
Israpundit ^ | Aug 1/09 | Ted Belman

Posted on 07/31/2009 11:10:26 PM PDT by tedbel

The New York Times recently editorialized on The Settlements Issue

    The last American president to openly challenge Israel on settlements was George H.W. Bush and we commend President Obama for demanding that Israel halt all new construction. The controversy must not obscure Mr. Obama’s real goal: nudging Israel and the Palestinians into serious peace negotiations.

Apparently the NYT is preparing the ground for Obama to back away from his absolutist demands and claim victory when negotiations start. I disagree. Had Obama never attempted to bring down the Netanyahu government by using settlements as a wedge issue, negotiations would have had a much better chance of getting started. Obama's attack on Israel has set them back.

    The Americans have decided that a freeze is needed to show Palestinians and other Arabs that Israel’s conservative government is serious about peace.

    Less visibly, but we hope just as assertively, the administration is pressing the Palestinians and other Arab leaders to take concrete steps to demonstrate their commitment to a peace deal. Those must clearly contribute to Israel’s sense of security.

Underlying this view is that the only peace the Americans are seeking is the one offered by the Saudi Plan. Israel is serious about peace but not the Saudi Plan. The NYT is suggesting if Israel is not prepared to accept the Saudi Plan, she is not interested in peace. In one sense it is right because there is no other peace deal that the Arabs would accept.

The NYT is suggesting that all that is necessary is for the Arabs to contribute to Israel's sense of security. No way. Israel wants more than a sense of security. Netanyahu has said so but the NYT and the Obama administration ignore this believing Israel must be forced to accept the Saudi Plan

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bhomiddleeast; israel; netanyahu; newyorktimes; nyt; obama; peaceprocess; propaganda; settlementfreeze; yellowjournalism
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1 posted on 07/31/2009 11:10:26 PM PDT by tedbel
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To: tedbel

NYT: Not serious about the facts!


2 posted on 07/31/2009 11:17:36 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: tedbel

Israel, the American government and its willful tool, the mainstream media, are no longer your friends. They are, in fact, your enemies, and they should not be trusted at all. Do what you have to do to survive, or you won’t.


3 posted on 07/31/2009 11:18:49 PM PDT by chris37
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To: tedbel

NYT: KarlInOhio not serious about weight loss as shown by his complete rejection of having his leg removed to get to his ideal weight.


4 posted on 07/31/2009 11:26:21 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Obama's medical nationalization bill reads like Atlas Shrugged with doctors instead of railroads.)
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To: tedbel

NYT: Israel not serious about peace
Israel: NYT not serious about journalism


5 posted on 07/31/2009 11:27:02 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: tedbel

Then again neither is anyone else serious about it just look at the track record.


6 posted on 07/31/2009 11:29:22 PM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: tedbel

Not serious about peace … they are serious about survival.


7 posted on 07/31/2009 11:31:48 PM PDT by doc1019 (Obama? Not so much.)
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To: Kansas58

There will be no peace till the AC brings it about.

And then only for a short time.

Won’t be long.....at the most 10-20 years


8 posted on 07/31/2009 11:33:45 PM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: tedbel

Well it’s plain stupid to ask Israel to negotiate with 3 different factions all claiming to represent the whole. There can be no “peace” until there is an official organization that will take responsibility for the Arab side of the border. American policy should be square on forcing Palestinian unity, and Lebanese unity for that matter. Until then, we should have no interest except perhaps trying to prevent war that interrupts American economic interest... that can be handled mainly by diplomacy.


9 posted on 07/31/2009 11:34:48 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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STFU
10 posted on 07/31/2009 11:44:18 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: doc1019

Exactly. Maybe if the other side was more serious about not bombing women and children they could start talking about peace.


11 posted on 07/31/2009 11:47:57 PM PDT by Palin2024
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I think Israel is smart enough to know that the Slammies are not capable of keeping peace promises, today’s Egypt maybe excepted. So it needs to be feared, that it will put the hammer down on whoever dares to pepper it with missiles or helps to slip suicide bombers in.


12 posted on 07/31/2009 11:57:44 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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Right, but the Arabs are?


13 posted on 07/31/2009 11:58:46 PM PDT by GeronL (Guilty of the crime of deviationism.)
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I didn’t know the NYT was into comic relief.


14 posted on 08/01/2009 12:15:12 AM PDT by TheThinker
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“.....Obama for demanding...”

Demand until you turn white, Obama.

If Israel wants to survive, and they do, they should ignore anything that this arrogant bug has to say.


15 posted on 08/01/2009 12:20:21 AM PDT by Gator113 (It's about stupidity, stupid. IMPEACH HERE, IMPEACH NOW.)
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To: tedbel; All
"NYT: Israel not serious about peace"


16 posted on 08/01/2009 3:14:18 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

Thanks Fred Nerks!

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Posted on 08/01/2009 2:44:42 AM PDT by Fred Nerks
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17 posted on 08/01/2009 4:54:00 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: musicman
The pali's are dead serious about the "peace process" which consists of killing every single Jew.

When this process is completed, there will be peace in the middle east.

18 posted on 08/01/2009 6:21:07 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: tedbel
Of course they are.

When no one dares attack Israel, for fear of guaranteed annihilation, they will have peace.

Hey Bibi, Godspeed, and get-er-done.

19 posted on 08/01/2009 7:17:37 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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20 posted on 08/01/2009 8:31:22 AM PDT by dr_who
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