Posted on 07/31/2009 7:45:45 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
Interestingly, the paper and the critters know our problem, but they are conveniently NOT mentioning the present illegal alien and usurper's in the White House, about his real problem, hmmm!!!
There’s a conspiracy alright, lol. We’re not the perpetrators, though.
Could this be a preparation for a softer landing for Barry when he eventually will experience a crash landing???
It’s from 2004, danamco. It lays bare the open contempt, derision and complicity of an apparently state-run newsmedia, with the political powers of both major parties who apparently have been conniving for at least a decade, to open the office of President to the world.
“FREE THE LONG FORM!”
Certainly, by all means. This President is not immune to rancorous calls for disclosure, as no President or even Presidential candidate ever has been in my lifetime.
But, make no mistake, his place of birth is not the be-all and end-all of establishing Constitutional eligibility for office.
Read the various attempts at amending the Constitutional "natural-born citizen" requirement posted to this thread. The news media and the Congress are well aware of the problems present, as far as Barack Obama's eligibility. Where he was born is only part of the equation.
Here is what Don Nickles proposed and why would you say so many Oklahoma Senators:
Senator Don Nickles, Republican of Oklahoma, wants to spell out, once and for all, who is a natural born American.
“We should not wait for an election to be challenged,” Nickles said when he introduced his legislation in February, “and the courts to then decide what ‘natural born’ means.”
His Natural Born Citizen Act would include children born outside the United States to citizen parents or parents able to transfer their citizenship. That would include McCain, whose parents were citizens, as well as an estimated two million others who, according to government figures, have been born to U.S. parents living and working overseas.
Such clarification “provides comfort and certainty to members of the American military and foreign services,” Nickles explained, “as well as expatriate families, that their children, too, are eligible to run for president.
“These children are no less qualified than children born on American soil, and they should not be treated differently,” he said.
Read carefully what Nickles proposed — he didn’t propose allowing a naturalized citizen the right to be President, he proposed that children born to military, foreign service, and anyone who could pass on citizenship to their children not born on foreign soil could run for President like they had been born here on the US soil. If you did not have the right according to law to transfer citizenship to your child, then your child could not run for President according to Nickles bill.
Hatch was the one that wanted a person to be able to run for President if they had been a citizen for so many years not Nickles.
On the other hand, it is politics.
Co-sponsors: Inhofe (R-OK) and Landrieu (D-LA).
Correction, Inhofe co-sponsored the Nickles proposal, which did in fact attempt to open the Presidency to citizens that can only be described as naturalized under the terms of the Constitution.
It was (and still is) Tom Coburn, who co-sponsored the Hatch proposal, opening the Presidency to naturalized citizens, outright, only limited by age and length of residency.
Thanks for the clarification — beats me why — couldn’t figure it out when Hatch made the first comments.
I thought Nickles was for McCain’s situation.
I don’t agree with allowing people born to foreign parents in the US having the right to run for President either — they should have the citizenship of their parent’s Country not ours.
Only infants born to American parents including those overseas should be native born. A lot of military have been born overseas and they should be treated like being born right here in this Country IMO.
He was on the radio yesterday complaining about how fascist Americans and the media were in trying to supress the Birth Certificate issue. He was saying that he did not take a stand on the merits of the birthers claims but he did not see why Zero would not produce it nor why everyone was trying to shut birthers up.
He is the only TV/Radio person talikng, and talking loudly now, about the BC and the supression of the issue.
Here is a link if you want to listen
Don from Las Vegas, NV
July 31, 2009
Don from Las Vegas, NV talks about the Supreme Court rulings on natural-born citizenship and Obama’s birth certificate status
Tim from Hoboken, NJ
July 31, 2009
Tim from Hoboken, NJ asks why and how President Obama can refuse to offer proof that he is a natural-born citizenship
Sandy from Ann Arbor, MI
July 21, 2009
Sandy from Ann Arbor, MI talks about Obama’s health care plan and his birth certificate
Ralph from Manhattan, NY
July 21, 2009
Ralph from Manhattan, NY talks about why Obama doesn’t just come forward and produce his birth certificate
Elaine from OR
July 15, 2009
Elaine from Oregon talks about how Obama never released his medical records either
Captain Neil Turner from Carlsbad, CA
July 15, 2009
Captain Neil Turner from Carlsbad, California talks about why Obama’s lack of a birth certificate questions legitimacy of his presidency
David from Freeport, NY
July 15, 2009
David from Freeport, NY talks about how Obama knows this birth certificate mess is about to blow up and he’s doing things as quickly as possible
It's an admirable sentiment, PhiKapMom. Looking specifically to the Constitution, though, attempting to extend "natural-born citizen" status to children born overseas to military parents will lead to exactly what the Founders sought to avoid. That is why The Naturalization Act Of 1790 was repealed and replaced in 1795, with the words "natural born" removed, having identical language otherwise, extending citizenship, ie naturalization at birth, to those born abroad.
Good intentions and pavement, you know the old saying. The 14th Amendment was ratified with the good and righteous intention of extending the rights and obligations of citizenship to former slaves. But, look at how it's been deliberately contorted and misapplied, despite that Amendment's author, John Bingham, stating in no uncertain terms that a natural-born citizen is the child of citizens, born on the soil of the United States.
Sorry, my fault!!!
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