[SvenMagnussen]

Each hospital is assigned a range of Certificate Numbers, i.e. all Kapiolani Hospital BC Numbers end with numbers such as 10xxx.

Susan Nordyke ends with 10637
Gretchen Nordyke ends with 10638
Barack Obama ends with 10641

Repubx.com reports ... “Here is number from a different hospital 6/20/1961.......... #151-61-07236 in Hawaii.”

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If Obama was born at Kapiolani Hospital in 1961, then hospital staff would have prepared the documentation for filing the Certificate (Not a Certification) of Live Birth with a pre-assigned Certification Number traceable to Kapiolani Hospital.

Furthermore, it’s unlikely the hospital staff would have identified the father’s race as “African.” Hospital staff typed up the form of the Certificate of Life Birth with information gathered from the maternity ward and the parents. The typed form with a pre-assigned number for a particular hospital was then presented to the doctor, administrator and parent for original signature and date of signature.

Barack’s COLB was filed but not accepted. It is likely the Certificate number Fightthesmears.com and factcheck.org (151-1961-10641) is a number assigned to someone other than Barack born at Kapiolani Hospital shortly after the Nordyke twins were born.

[MestaMachine]

It is possible that the two missing numbers indicate miscarriages or stillbirths, so those would not have been filed as cerificates of live birth. They would reflect something completely different, but necessary for the record either for burial, or whatever way the deaths would have been handled.

[SirJohnBarleycorn]

Each hospital is assigned a range of Certificate Numbers, i.e. all Kapiolani Hospital BC Numbers end with numbers such as 10xxx

I would expect that is it not the hospital that assigned the numbers, but the state agency.

The serial numbers were Bates-stamped on top. I would expect that a number would not be assigned until ALL the requirements of the form were completed, the last requirement being that of the registrar.

It may be that certificates from various hospital and sources were sent in to the state bureaucracy, and then were Bates-stampted with a number by a state employee as they were finally completed and processed.

Unless you have seen some specific credible information on the hospital practices?

[cynwoody]

Each hospital is assigned a range of Certificate Numbers, i.e. all Kapiolani Hospital BC Numbers end with numbers such as 10xxx.

Do you have a link for that? Or are you just surmising?

It would seem more likely that the Department of Health assigned the numbers as they processed the forms. To do it the other way would require allocating batches of numbers to the various hospitals in order to make sure numbers don't get assigned twice. It would also likely lead to unused numbers, since it would be necessary to overallocate numbers to the hospitals in order to ensure against running out.

[El Gato]

is a number assigned to someone other than Barack born at Kapiolani Hospital shortly after the Nordyke twins were born.

Not much after either. Possibly the same day, maybe the next day, since BHO's apparent sequence number is only 3 numbers higher than that of the younger of the Nordyke twins.

So someone should look at the babies listed as born that day or the next at Kapiolani and figure out if any of them died some time in the intervening years. Then see if a copy of their COLB or Certificate of Live Birth could be obtained from a parent, surviving spouse or sibling.

But it might be good to check all the people born Aug. 5, and Aug. 6, '61 at Kapiolani, since they might not have bothered with a dead one, figuring no one would think to check.

If one could be found with a number that matches Obama's.

Well, we'd have him by the short and curlies.

[Aurorales]

“Each hospital is assigned a range of Certificate Numbers, i.e. all Kapiolani Hospital BC Numbers end with numbers such as 10xxx.”
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I was born at Tripler AMC in Honolulu. My last digits begin with 010 just like the Nordyke twins BC’s.

So other hospitals in HI were using the same number range.

[NaNaNaNaN]

That article cites a birth certificate with number 151-61-07236 . Has anyone actually seen an image of it? Or is that just a lie?

[BP2]

Furthermore, it’s unlikely the hospital staff would have identified the father’s race as “African.” Hospital staff typed up the form of the Certificate of Life Birth with information gathered from the maternity ward and the parents. The typed form with a pre-assigned number for a particular hospital was then presented to the doctor, administrator and parent for original signature and date of signature.

As AFRICAN does NOT appear as a category on any census or as a race, and likely NOT entered by a state-recognized "certifier" such as an M.D., nurse or midwife -- who would know that AFRICAN is not a race. It DOES sound like something an inexperienced 18-year-old mother might due, especially

I think it's possible that Ann did NOT give birth in a hospital, mailing the form in. The Local Registrar FILED the form as a vital statistic, instead of the form being ACCEPTED by the STATE REGISTRAR.

In my mind, the NEXT question is from WHERE and WHEN did Ann mail in the form to be FILED to register the birth of Barack Hussein Obama II. And is it his REAL, FIRST original birth certificate?