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Hawaii "Certification of Live Birth" - Date Accepted vs. Date Filed (Some clues)
DecaLogos ^ | February 8, 2009 | Mike C (Comment Section)

Posted on 07/30/2009 6:25:00 PM PDT by trueamerica

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To: El Gato

Yea, that’s the problem, it all has to do with what was being used at the time that the printing is being made. So literally if I got a new one today, it would likely be subtly different then the one I currently have.

Its ... frustrating.


121 posted on 07/30/2009 10:40:25 PM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: MestaMachine
That was when every freakin’ body was going nuts trying to update the computer software because of what they THOUGHT might happen in 2000. That could very well explain some of this. if they updated to 2001 to avoid what MIGHT happen.... A lot of places did that out of panic.

And it might have, if everybody hadn't gone nuts trying to update the software.

It so happens that I've seen similar issues cause some very "strange" results.

122 posted on 07/30/2009 10:40:32 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: MestaMachine

If you go back and read your initial plunge into that thread (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2302120), you will notice that you tried to assume the role of ‘correcting expert’. Your conclusion was notably a raging defense of Danae and chastisement of those questioning her. Admirable, but you were incorrect according to what the Vital Records folks have said.


123 posted on 07/30/2009 10:41:00 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: All

check out this new thread
FactCheck COLB are forged

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2304902/posts


124 posted on 07/30/2009 10:41:44 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: Danae
We are a stubborn lot! ;^)
125 posted on 07/30/2009 10:41:46 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: rolling_stone

I suggest we all sit down and have a beer together and relax a little before Obamanation tells the press we are fighting between ourselves over his fake BC.

flamesuit on/


126 posted on 07/30/2009 10:44:31 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: MHGinTN

............... Maybe.........

LOL


127 posted on 07/30/2009 10:45:41 PM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: MestaMachine
You vague threats aside, the Y2K snafu threat is perhaps a plauisble explanation that I had not thought of! It would be less confusing to print 11/01 than to have 11/00 on the forms. I may just have to call Hawaii again, soon. :^)
128 posted on 07/30/2009 10:46:36 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Danae

Happy birthday, by the way if you are over the hill you sure don’t show it! I’m “rolling” (stone) down the other side myself...


129 posted on 07/30/2009 10:47:17 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: MHGinTN

Dude, you aren’t even dealing with them on an official level. You are just talking to those who answer the phone. You can’t even say or won’t what their positions are or their expertise, level of experience...


130 posted on 07/30/2009 10:47:50 PM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: rolling_stone

hehe I have posted my Birth certificate! LOL I can’t hide... lol


131 posted on 07/30/2009 10:48:23 PM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: MestaMachine

I’ve been an administrator for large computer systems and for unknown reasons they can make inexplicable errors, especially after updating the software. Patches and fixed would have to be applied. It makes sense and could explain Danae’s anomalies.


132 posted on 07/30/2009 10:50:04 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: MHGinTN

And I posted my own doubts before you talked to them. It still doesn’t absolve anyone for the way they, and you, were attacking Danae. Plarik accused her of forging her COLB. She didn’t. YOU called her a liar. She wasn’t. I have a sense of decency. I didn’t think what happened on that thread was decent. And it wasn’t.


133 posted on 07/30/2009 10:51:21 PM PDT by MestaMachine (OREO, Milk's favorite cookie. At least that's what my TV said.)
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To: Danae
Polarik himself decided that I was pawning off a forgery because I forgot to send him copies with a different contrast. THATS HIS ONLY EXCUSE so far. He has not responded to a SINGLE one of the multiple emails, scans and pictures I have sent since then. I don’t care how many degrees ANYONE has, he is still human, and can make MISTAKES. He made one here. Thats HIS problem. He should have sent me a reminder before he popped off his mouth. Thats HIS responsibility not mine. I know where I was born when I got my damned wallet stolen, and when I had my MOTHER order my damned COLB so I could freakin get my damned ID built back again.

Some URLs for your review:


134 posted on 07/30/2009 10:52:32 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
Do we know for sure that some of the “accepted by” formulations were issued AFTER Danae’s COLB and not all of them before?

You can check for yourself. There is really only one other example other than Barry's forgery that says "filed by". I thought it said 2007, but another look says it could be 2001. If it is, then Barry's is again the anomalous one. The language could have been changed after 2001, before the others which were at least 2002 or 03. It could be that "filed by" is the old language, while "accepted by" is the new.

Mind's getting fuzzy, need to look at it all tomorrow evening.

135 posted on 07/30/2009 10:52:34 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: MHGinTN; Danae
Hawaii is on the other side of the International dateline thus they are a year earlier than the mainland. Yeah that's the ticket!
136 posted on 07/30/2009 10:53:48 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: MestaMachine

Two posts from Repubx.com:

“... a lot of prominent Republicans, ranging from party leaders to big-name pundits that we usually expect to make outrageous partisan attacks, are doing something they’d been previously neglecting: Definitively cracking down on the Birthers, rather than playing to the conspiracy theorists allowing this stuff to continue festering among their activist base.

“Until recently, this wasn’t the situation at all. Indeed, prominent Congressional Republicans were openly entertaining this stuff. A bill to require birth certificates from presidential candidates has picked up 11 total co-sponsors; Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-OK) declared that the Birthers “have a point,” and that he doesn’t discourage it. Even House GOP Vice-Chair Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-WA), a member of the leadership, was saying she wanted to see the documents.

“But now there’s a pattern from on high — in both the punditocracy and from the party leadership — of Republicans backing away from this ...”

tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/.../...he-birthers.php
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@ Foggy:

Here is what I think is going on: Remember before Clinton was impeached, I think Stephanopolis or some other guy on ABC said that if Clinton goes down, it would then open a whole can of worms, meaning taking down a lot of people with him. What happened in the Senate? They did NOT want to touch this with a ten foot pole!

Now I see this sinister problem with the same eyes this time around, that if PINO is “falling” from the thrown based on the Constitutional crises of unseen or unheard proportion, the mess will be so grave that the card house of Congress will be crashing down. Remember this is what Philip Berg has been warning against BEFORE the election.

So now you have two of the three branches being black mailed to silence exactly the way the Senate handled Clinton in letting him off the hook.

Our Founding Fathers would be turning over in their graves if they could see how our nation has been corrupted by foreign powers initiated by the USSR many years ago!

The “Birthers’ are the only people in the U.S. that sees this clearly, and the “After-birthers” are doing their best to shut them down, which is a difficult task to do because of the Internet and the speed of light in communication, and they have the Constitution on their side.

Additional now PINO’s problems are discussed in the military, challenging him on his legalities to be THEIR commander-in-chief. It is going to be very ugly, because all 50 Secretary of States did NOT do their Constitutional duty to secure proper vetting, hmmmm!
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137 posted on 07/30/2009 10:55:53 PM PDT by danamco
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To: rolling_stone

And of course the clerks there are all incompetent don’tchaknow.


138 posted on 07/30/2009 10:59:09 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Red Steel

Yeah, it well could. I have fallen victim to “The State Doesn’t Make a Mistake” routine, so I know it happens. And it is crazy trying to undo their mistake when they won’t even admit they could possibly make one. I had to go to court to straighten it out. Cost me plenty. Cost them zip.


139 posted on 07/30/2009 11:03:48 PM PDT by MestaMachine (OREO, Milk's favorite cookie. At least that's what my TV said.)
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To: rolling_stone
Hawaii is on the other side of the International dateline thus they are a year earlier than the mainland. Yeah that's the ticket!

Check the map. Honolulu is -10. The dateline should be at -12, but they fudge it so the Aleutians are the same day as the rest of AK.

140 posted on 07/30/2009 11:04:16 PM PDT by cynwoody
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