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To: DaveTesla

You know what I mean. That Democracy part is critically important, not an optional extra or afterthought.

Constitutions do not maintain themselves, nor can you comfortably hide behind them in spite of what they promise, if you do not have the votes. Laws without belief in them can be amazingly insubstantial. And you cannot just demand belief.

That way lies an irrelevant hermit-existence. Eventually you fellows might become like species of political Amish, quaint characters off in the hinterland. See the California Republican party.

We have an unsatisfactory situation that will only be remedied by plain politics, not constitutional argument. Plain politics requires persuasion with disciplined messages. You fellows are off-message. We need you to get with the program.


185 posted on 07/30/2009 12:57:09 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: buwaya
“That Democracy part is critically important, not an optional extra or afterthought.”

The hell it is. It is the what the enemy uses to rob us of our liberty.

“Constitutions do not maintain themselves, nor can you comfortably hide behind them in spite of what they promise.”

I like ours just fine. And I will defend it with every thing I have.

Including asking our public officials to follow it.
Including Article II section 1.

It is obvious you have no regard for it.

“You fellows are off-message.”
Who's message might that be, Dear leaders perhaps?
Unlike you I am a Free Man and think for myself.

“We need you to get with the program.”
Again who's program might that be?
You sound just like a collectivist marxist.
No I am not trying to be rude. Honest.
Your trying to instruct me in the program and you don't
even know what type of government we have.

Read this:
Just after the completion and signing of the Constitution,
in reply to a woman's inquiry as to the type of government
the Founders had created, Benjamin Franklin said, “A
Republic, if you can keep it.”
Not only have we failed to keep it, most don't even know
what it is.

http://www.c4cg.org/republic.htm

Republic vs. Democracy

187 posted on 07/30/2009 1:56:06 AM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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