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Down with the Birthers (Just open the kimono, Obama!)
Front Page Magazine ^ | July 29, 2009 | Jamie Weinstein

Posted on 07/29/2009 5:19:16 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn

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To: Star Traveler
Yes.
I hear you loud and clear.

I am just a little insignificant peon who matters little.

141 posted on 07/29/2009 8:01:41 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: NurdlyPeon
I'm waiting for the plaque on his first residence so we can see it when we go to Honolulu.
142 posted on 07/29/2009 8:02:11 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, passport, and school records.)
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To: DaveTesla

The first three words of the U.S. Constitution are “We The People”. That says everything about who is really the boss. We’ve been dormant for over ninety years as the “progressives/liberals/communist/fascist” whatever you want to label em have run amok. This no more.


143 posted on 07/29/2009 8:04:18 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: txhurl

EFFORT BY McCAIN, OBAMA, McCASKILL, LEAHY, CLINTON AND COBURN TO CIRCUMVENT US CONSTITUTION
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2246688/posts

:-)


144 posted on 07/29/2009 8:05:19 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: txhurl

Miss Traveler, are you busy LOLing or did you see the question regarding McCaskill?


145 posted on 07/29/2009 8:06:15 PM PDT by txhurl (Put the pressure on and keep it on until this administration snaps.)
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To: Uncle Sham

“We The People”

Hear Hear!


146 posted on 07/29/2009 8:09:44 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Star Traveler

Obama, Clinton, McCaskill ORIGINAL ‘BIRTHERS’ (April 10, 2008): Scrubbing McCain’s NBC Status, Obama’s too

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2298857/posts

Another one for you.


147 posted on 07/29/2009 8:10:18 PM PDT by txhurl (Put the pressure on and keep it on until this administration snaps.)
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To: buwaya

That’s your right and your choice.


148 posted on 07/29/2009 8:11:24 PM PDT by Know et al (Everything I know I read in the newspaper and that's the reason for my ignorance: Will Rogers)
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To: Star Traveler

A derivative document by a state official on a matter outside of her expertise, and the presumed, alleged opinions of unnamed state officials’ lawyers who did *not* sign the statement, has no apparent relevance to a legal issue unless supported by legal arguments (which you have failed to supply). Hawaii can pronounce the world is flat or round or that the sun revolves around the earth or vice versa for that matter but it does not give any state official in Hawaii any authority or jurisdiction to determine the veracity, legal or otherwise, of such matters. Hawaii state lawyers can vet legally useless, irrelevant, and obfuscatory statements until they are blue in the face but that does not guarantee the legally useless, irrelevant, and obfuscatory statements are accurate or complete.

LOL, indeed.


149 posted on 07/29/2009 8:13:19 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: DaveTesla

We’re all insignificant in terms of being a single voter. Of course, we all know that. The only significance is in large numbers.

Now, figure this one out.. the large numbers that we saw in the last election was about 10 million more of the voting public for Obama than for McCain. And then, when you get down to looking closer at the conservatives, there is *by no means* a majority of the conservatives who are on this birth certificate thing.’

I’m pushing for a state law, as I said, and that would be considered “moderate” on the issue... LOL...

So, when you take the numbers in the last election and the numbers in terms of conservatives on this birth certificate issue, you’re going to come down to a very small minority involved in it.

And since the State of Hawaii statement came out, that answers the question on the qualifications issue definitively. That pushes more out of the camp of the birthers and into the larger majority (because of that statement).

And so, it’s like I’ve always said, in that this will never go away (for sure) but it will be a small minority involved in it...


150 posted on 07/29/2009 8:16:25 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: SteveH

No matter how factual or logical you are she will repeat her post dozens of times more until she morphs into her next argument.


151 posted on 07/29/2009 8:17:23 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, passport, and school records.)
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To: Star Traveler
I think the statement for the State of Hawaii is pretty straightforward and speaks for itself and will be totally accurate.

Well I don't think it's all that straightforward. And as far as the statement speaking for itself, I'm sure it does, but I'm still not convinced about what it is saying. As far as Hawaii holding the original document, that proves nothing. (It is, however, a good way to add verbiage to your argument and give the impression that you are actually saying something. Well done on that.) As far as them knowing what they are talking about, I'm sure they do, they just haven't told us what that is yet. Their statements are like yours: they sound nice but they still don't answer the question.

152 posted on 07/29/2009 8:17:41 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: Americas last, best hope for survival.)
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To: NurdlyPeon

If you want the answer to the question of what is on the birth certificate, fully and completely, you’re going to have to get that state law going... that I’ve been talking about...


153 posted on 07/29/2009 8:19:04 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: DaveTesla
I am just a little insignificant peon who matters little.

Welcome to the club, brother. It could be worse, you could be nurdly too.

154 posted on 07/29/2009 8:20:18 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: Americas last, best hope for survival.)
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To: Star Traveler

” if the State of Hawaii doesn’t know this information — then no one is ever going to know it — because no one else has had it all these years... except the State of Hawaii... LOL...”

No one else had it all these years..except Obama’s grandmother and we assume,
when he came of age-Obama took custody of his important papers.
Like his birth certificate.

Page 26, “ Dreams From My Father “
“I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms,
when I was in high school,”

Obama goes on to write that in the interview with his father,( the 16 yr old article he discovered )
he never mentioned a wife and son and he wondered if BO Sr did that on purpose and if so, why.


155 posted on 07/29/2009 8:21:29 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Star Traveler
If you want the answer to the question of what is on the birth certificate, fully and completely, you’re going to have to get that state law going... that I’ve been talking about...

Or we could just keep raising the issue and raising the noise level until a judge decides to subpoena the document. That's what WE'VE been talking about.

156 posted on 07/29/2009 8:22:59 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: Americas last, best hope for survival.)
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To: Star Traveler

“very small minority involved in it”

Says who, you?

A lot of lies were told, not just the Birth Certificate issue.

You seem to want to help cover them up.

And what do you gain by doing so?

True liberty lies not with ANY government but the people.
Liberty is based upon principles and not policies or the word of courts or government officials. Principles are based on truth.

No person who loves liberty, can, in the face of the danger of its loss, stand idly by when life itself and the pursuit of happiness, hang so precipitously in the balance.

It is in the hands of the citizens.

And at what expense to liberty does your intent to hide the truth
cost the rest of us?


157 posted on 07/29/2009 8:23:49 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Star Traveler
This is weird, Looking at Obama’s history as a person is one issue, Obama’s politics is another. In this whole birth certificate issue the only real relevance is he qualified to be president. The Head of the Department of Health assures us that Obama is a native born American. The circumstances of his birth in terms of his life story are not going to be clarified any time soon. The problems of Obama’s politics are very clear!
158 posted on 07/29/2009 8:26:40 PM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: NurdlyPeon
"Or we could just keep raising the issue and raising the
noise level until a judge decides to subpoena the
document. That's what WE'VE been talking about.
"

Hear Hear!
159 posted on 07/29/2009 8:28:13 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: carcraft

I can’t see how he can be considered “natural born” with a Kenyan father and he admitted that he had dual citizenship through his father. The admission was on his own website. How can a “natural born” citizen also citizenship in Great Britain?


160 posted on 07/29/2009 8:33:19 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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