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To: DouglasKC
Well. Lots of enthusiasm. You have to explain the news paper birth announcements in this theory, and you can't unless the microfilm has been modified.

Nice try and there are several folks who subscribe to this but it falls for the moment, but perhaps not permanently to Occam's razor.

23 posted on 07/28/2009 9:20:55 PM PDT by dalight
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To: dalight
Well. Lots of enthusiasm. You have to explain the news paper birth announcements in this theory, and you can't unless the microfilm has been modified.

See this thread.

There was a news story yesterday about a lady in Hawaii who had twins born the day after Obama in the hospital that Obama was supposed to have been born in. She has long form birth certificates. The twins were not in the newspaper. This suggests that the paper announcements were fakes.

25 posted on 07/28/2009 9:25:48 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: dalight

“Nice try and there are several folks who subscribe to this but it falls for the moment, but perhaps not permanently to Occam’s razor.”

Well, in addition to accounting for some puzzling behavior by various officials, it does better explain 2 mysteries: 1) African being listed as race of father; and 2) the inconsistency between Fukino’s claiming to have seen original records and the more recent claim that all long-form BC’s were destroyed in 2001.

I haven’t been able to square those statements with that alleged 2001 destruction UNLESS Fukino is quite blatantly lying. But why would Fukino lie if, as the announcements in the paper imply, Obama really was born in Honolulu and hence had a birth certificate issued there within days of being born? So even Occam’s razor leaves us with a puzzle unresolved.


29 posted on 07/28/2009 9:35:18 PM PDT by DrC
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To: dalight
Well. Lots of enthusiasm. You have to explain the news paper birth announcements in this theory, and you can't unless the microfilm has been modified.

Nice try and there are several folks who subscribe to this but it falls for the moment, but perhaps not permanently to Occam's razor.

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I have been commenting on the internet about this Obama birth certificate issue since last April/May 2008.

So, could you please tell me: What is your belief on how Obama's birth came to be listed in the 1961 newspaper?

That is, what is your understanding as to who sent the birth notice to the 1961 newspaper?

In your opinion, was it the hospital, or was it the Hawaii government agency that was responsible for birth registrations that sent the 1961 Hawaii newspaper the notice of Obama's birth?

How about this scene:

Obama was not born in a Hawaii hospital at all.

1. Instead, his mother filled out a 1961 Hawaii birth certificate at home and mailed it to the Hawaii agency in charge of birth certificates.

In 1961, a parent could simply mail in a baby's birth certificate with no questions asked, and no one from the Hawaii government would do a followup to verify that the information on the mailed in birth certificate was true.

2. After the Hawaii agency recorded the mailed in Obama birth certificate, it sent the birth notice to the local newspaper alongside the birth notices of births that occurred in Hawaii hospitals.

3. The Hawaii newspaper could not tell the difference between births that occurred in a hospital and births that did NOT occur in a hospital, because the Hawaii agency did NOT separate the two groups.

4. So, in the end, we have Obama's birth notice listed as if Obama was born in a hospital alongside all the births that DID occur in a hospital.

5. In summary, I believe that there is growing evidence that Ohama was NOT born in a hospital back in 1961.

6. We can easily find out if Obama was born in a hospital by looking at his 1961 Hawaii long form birth certificate, if Obama would ever give Hawaii permission to release it.

7. I believe that there are two main reasons why Obama is fighting so hard to keep his Hawaii 1961 long form out of the courts and out of the public's hands:

a. Soetoro, Obama's stepfather and citizen of Indonesia, adopted Obama when Obama was a little boy.

b. There is no doctor or hospital name on the long form birth certificate.

46 posted on 07/28/2009 10:54:04 PM PDT by john mirse
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