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Public Sector Leeches Are Killing City Budgets
The Business Insider ^ | 7/28/09

Posted on 07/28/2009 7:43:54 PM PDT by FromLori

Boy, and we thought the huge retirement dollars going to public sector workers in California was crazy. But fat, guaranteed retirement checks are just the tip of the iceberg, really, when it comes to sucking money from the taxpayers.

Bob Norman at the Broward Palm Beach New Times points out how public sector workers can work for the city and collect a retirement check simultaneously:

Recently I did a post about BSO Lt. Col. Ricky Frey making nearly $320,000 off of a popular state retirement scam for government officials that basically allows triple dipping and opulent take-home pay at the expense of taxpayers. All government officials have to do is pretend to retire, start collecting what amounts to a double pension, and then get rehired by the public body.

It's a brilliant, if obscene, practice, and I don't think any public agency has the Broward County School Board beat when it comes to cashing in on it. I received a document from a source that lists all the board employees who have retired from the school district, began collecting both a hefty pension and hefty Deferred Retirement Option Program (DROP) stipends, and then come back as contracted employees to make as much as they were making in the first place or more.

And when they were rehired, they were basically given big fat salaries commensurate to what they were getting when they retired. One name on the list is Carolyn Eggelletion, the wife of Broward County Commissioner Josephus Eggelletion. She was making $109,865 when she "retired." Then she came back to the same job -- principal of Winston Park Elementary -- and today she's pulling in a pension, her DROP stipend (which is usually close to the pension pay), and $114,637 in current salary.

Our guess is that crap like

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: benefits; lping; public; workers

1 posted on 07/28/2009 7:43:54 PM PDT by FromLori
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To: bamahead

This screams Libertarian ping list thread!


2 posted on 07/28/2009 7:47:53 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Liberal sacred cows make great hamburger)
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To: FromLori

These are the kinds fo people that need to be discovered, exposed, and strung up. then go after the county boards that allowed (and in some cases conspired with) these swindlers.

These people feel totally fine legally stealing from their neighbors. They have no consciences. “If I can do it and it’s technically legal, there’s no moral problem.” These are evil wicked people that suck off the hard work of their neighbors. And then play the “I’m just a humble public servant” card anytime they can.


3 posted on 07/28/2009 7:49:09 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: FromLori
Public Sector Leeches Are Killing City Budgets

Good! Tear it all down, Man!

Let City Hall fight itself, and then collapse under its own weight. Burn baby burn.

4 posted on 07/28/2009 7:53:53 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: FromLori
this is why I feel so poor all the time......I work hard, so does my hubby, and his pension (private) was basically stolen....

someone come in with our reward will be in heaven....*sigh*

5 posted on 07/28/2009 8:00:06 PM PDT by cherry
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To: FromLori

It’s a problem in the state of North Carolina as well.


6 posted on 07/28/2009 8:10:45 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: FromLori

The inevitable result of too big. When nobody personally knows anybody getting the money, it’s too big.


7 posted on 07/28/2009 8:15:38 PM PDT by Bhoy
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To: FromLori
I suppose some people think my retirement is improper. It's a defined annuity. However, it was also 28% of my pay package. My take home was a lot less than the listed salary because my compensation went into my retirement fund. The money was invested and it's now self-funding. This is a big point. A properly done retirement package should be funded as benefits are accrued. You also have to watch the heck out of the fund because the city came looking to raid it for (ready?) "low interest home loans for people who cannot attain financing through normal channels." In other words, they wanted to use our pension fund for sub-prime mortgages.

I understand people getting upset by opulent retirement packages, but my retirement was listed as part of my salary, and was one of the reasons I took a public sector job. On the private contractors, it could be a good idea, but it sounds like people were paid over market value for work after they retired.

9 posted on 07/28/2009 8:34:25 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Our guess is that crap like this goes on all over the country.

Ketchikan Gateway Borough School District.

GUILTY AS !@!!MANY teachers and administrators are pulling this scam.

10 posted on 07/28/2009 8:47:47 PM PDT by jedi150
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To: FromLori

The problem with soicalists is that eventually they run out of other people’s money.


11 posted on 07/28/2009 8:48:54 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: FromLori

Josephus Eggelletion

12 posted on 07/28/2009 9:00:31 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Clintonfatigued; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; ...
All government officials have to do is pretend to retire, start collecting what amounts to a double pension, and then get rehired by the public body.



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13 posted on 07/28/2009 9:32:57 PM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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To: kcvl

It is impossible to get paid too much of whitey’s money if you’re black.


14 posted on 07/28/2009 9:39:15 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: MinorityRepublican

South Carolina too.


15 posted on 07/29/2009 2:26:17 AM PDT by wally_bert (My doctor says that I have a malformed public-duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fibre)
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To: wally_bert

I don’t know about you but we call ‘em double dippers here in North Carolina.


16 posted on 07/29/2009 2:34:42 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Secret Agent Man

...The same insane “stimulus” money that the government has no clue about who got it. Big business and big banks got the 10% of the money to loan to small business, but, they’re not making loans! I pawned all my tools to pay the bills because I was not working. If I get work, I can’t get a loan to buy the tools I need. Sell my soul? Nah, that’s what they want, and they can’t have it. I’m fighting for meself, and my FRiends. Let’s stop this bullsh!t!!!


17 posted on 07/29/2009 5:53:16 AM PDT by gargoyle (...My thoughts are not seditious, or treasonous, they're revolutionary...)
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To: FromLori
This has been a racket in Oregon for many years. The bigger issue, though, is the unfunded liability of the retirement system itself.

Somehow, it seems, state & local governments don't contribute all of the taxpayer funded portion of employees’ accounts until they start receiving retirement pay, so we the taxpayers get to pay the principal contribution PLUS the individual account's (fictitious) investment earnings at the time of retirement.

State & local governments’ payments to pension accounts are now half or more of the government entities’ personnel expense in some cases, and it is unsustainable. But it is contractual and the only way out of paying is government bankruptcy (if even then).

California's system is similar and they (the taxpayers, not the retirees) are feeling the pain right now.

Oregon's system (the real part) is largely invested with real estate developers (the state PERS partners I know are slum lords, actually) and the flattening or shrinking of value in those accounts actually helps the state to some extent, but it's a situation that's not going to hold.

18 posted on 07/29/2009 10:15:06 AM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (He must fail.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Officially, they are TERI’s but do the same thing. They retire for one day and come right back drawing the same money and keeping a slot that no one else can have a shot at.


19 posted on 07/29/2009 12:05:16 PM PDT by wally_bert (My doctor says that I have a malformed public-duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fibre)
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To: FromLori

Isn’t that the whole point of leeches? To destroy the local governments so that the federal government can step in and take over every aspect of our lives?

This was by design people.


20 posted on 07/29/2009 1:22:57 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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