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To: mad_as_he$$; Gulf War One; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1035rep; 2ndDivisionVet; 4woodenboats; ...

No, not in Iraq but in pre-revolution Iran, where martial law was in place toward the end and directed by the J2 (military intel and counter-intel) and I was a consultant for J2 and there about four days a week. So have a hands on experience of how to work it and what in the way of forces are needed.

You are starting at a point where the country is in full revolt/rebellion (as was Iraq in reality) rather than at a point where some, key word SOME, of the population shows dissent and civil disobedience.

At this point not even ARMED disobedience! In come some of the 80,000 to hot spots.

99% of people, law abiding by nature and not yet mad enough would intially honor the curfews at night. Maybe even some 48 hour ones.

Your “lets have some fun guys” at this point would be a handful here and there.

Backing Obama would be tens of thousands of ACORN and Obama-brown shirts. mostly locals who would harrass and terrify the civilians in their locality. Just as gangs do now. But in a marauding fashion.

Most people at this point would still prefer to stay home during curfews rather than confront the ACORN thugs and Obama private militias that are being formed. As opposed to confronting the military under whose cover of authority these groups would operate. Some 250,000 of these have been approved by Congress with the rest of one million in the works.

Next scenario would be some shoot outs. Some civilians and some soldiers would be killed. The private militias would be quickly authorized (by Obama and his Czars) to assist with martial law operations.

They would flesh out the military “skeleton” numbers and structure and put fear of any resistance into the average family.

Arrests of potential “have fun guys” would quickly follow on a neighborhood by neighborhood basis. Many will have been identified and GPS’d by then so their sting capability will initially be reduced.

The average American city family will still not rise up in armed resistance.

Clashes between private militias and citizens will increase and ACORN type people will be killed as will as some citizens and perhaps a soldier or two.

The ACORNists will become increasingly brutal and at this point the “armed resistance” by armed family members will appear. Bloodshed will escalate.

Soldiers will begin to refuse to arrest and shoot at curfew breakers. ONE MILLION ACORNists will become a private army doing it instead. By then as fully funded and equipped as well armed as our current military. Using armored cars if not tanks.

It is here that the military Divisions like the Airborne etc., will “join” the “have fun guys” and a mini-Civil War would begin.

Secession under the 10th Amendment would quickly follow.

Beyond that even speculation becomes fuzzy and out of focus.

Back to the original subject, you do not need to have fixed check points at every intesection, so you set up roaming mobile ones, who at random times set up random positions. Plus some stationary ones at a few key locations. These are not personnel intensive operations.

And remember that the “fun guys” would not be too willing to shoot at the soldiers either. The main confrontations would quickly turn into ACORNists against the “have fun” guys and the martial law military joining and trying to control the by now renegade ACORNists.


132 posted on 07/29/2009 8:42:49 PM PDT by FARS ( Be happy, Be well)
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To: FARS

Since it’s from FARS. I’ll assume his tin foil hat has a leak in it...


134 posted on 07/29/2009 9:00:30 PM PDT by Left2Right ("Starve the Beast!")
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


136 posted on 07/29/2009 9:09:20 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: FARS; All

Americans will kill every ACORNIST within 24 hours. Our military will NOT kill their own people.


137 posted on 07/29/2009 9:55:16 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: FARS
I think BOR has discovered how comfy it is to be on the liberal's good side as well as become more liberal himself.

Being liberal means never having to say you're sorry, appearing to always be on the side of the victim and "oppressed", to always be given the moral high ground because the public will give you the benefit of the doubt, and to not have to defend timeless principles time after time through untiring analysis and courage.

Like I said it's got to be comfortable, if cowardly, to be a liberal.

138 posted on 07/29/2009 10:26:10 PM PDT by TheThinker
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To: FARS
I understand and appreciate your experience. I still think you are underestimating the anger and frustration in this country. Trust me when you are armed and someone starts shooting at you shooting back is not that hard - been there done that. As far as ACORN etc. they will be massacred by the “insurgents” - if it comes to that.
Especially since they will not be time for them to be trained and armed before September. I saw one sniper in VN destroy the command structure for a very large NVA army unit in a 15 minute period. It was child's play for him.
150 posted on 07/30/2009 5:32:58 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: FARS

Sounds like the Basiji to me.


155 posted on 07/30/2009 10:41:38 AM PDT by brooklyn dave (Where's the birth cert?)
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