yitbos
Posted on 07/27/2009 8:53:41 PM PDT by advance_copy
When Blue Dog Democrats revolted over the cost of ObamaCare 10 days ago, the White House quickly came up with a plan to give them political cover: a government board that would tell Congress how to restrain costs. Well, so much for that, as the Congressional Budget Office has now exposed this idea as another false economy. But it’s worth understanding the reason because it also exposes the core problem with government-run health care.
Over the weekend CBO director Douglas Elmendorf said the proposal will only save $2 billion over the next 10 years. That’s less than 0.2% of the total cost of the House bill, adding that “In CBO’s judgment, the probability is high that no savings will be realized.” Ever.
This is the same proposal that White House budget chief Peter Orszag has called “probably the most important piece that can be added” to the House health bill. Mr. Orszag has become a favorite of President Obama by claiming that “waste” can be sweated out of the health system without compromising quality. But lately he’s discovering that the power of positive technocratic thinking counts for little in Congress.
(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...
-- President Barak Hussein Obama (June 24, 2009)
“...doctors ..., ...hospitals, ... insurers, drug and device makers ... all have political friends.”
There is no general solution and that’s what the free market is about. You tell me how much it costs, I’ll tell you what I am willing to pay.
Insurance companies are strangled by gov regulation. You don’t need new laws just about insurance companies if they don’t pay it’s fraud & you sue.
When gov tries to aggregate sub-categories there is always injustice. There is no one size fits all.
If deals are made straight out in the open (free market) everybody knows who paid what. When gov gets involved nobody knows who pays what. The nunbers are too big, bureacurcy hides a lot of waste & corruption & theft.
National Gov is useful for regulating the army & protecting our country. Other than that get out of our business. Shut up.
Grandpa served in the military & broke his hip - give him an asprin.
Pedro is an illegal who needs a triple bypass and wants grandpa’s social security and medicare.
Buh bye Grandpa.
I love the Blue Dogs. I want to adopt one and even vote for it.
They are significantly farther to the right than Ahnold, McCain, Bloomberg, Specter.
What’s the difference between a conservative Democrat and a liberal Republican? What’s the difference between mostly sunny and partly cloudy?
Party means nothing.
yitbos
Disclaimer: I have not totally vetted this, just briefly looking at, the info below seems pretty accurate.
What is in the Healthcare Reform Bill H.R. 3200? For starters: just a few of the goodies easily caught:
A business will be assessed a $100/per day fine if it does NOT enroll in this healthcare plan IF PASSED ??
Page 155
What your employer MUST DO ?
page 144
If you don ‘ t particpate — SEE what YOU will be taxed!
page 167
Gov”t will have access to your Bank accounts for electronic transfers
that ‘ s on page 59
FULL BILL HERE -—all 1017 pages
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_...
Read more !!!!
Section 2793
http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c111:1:./temp/~c111ybLbrU:e19...:
reads——>>>
Enforcement of Health Coverage Participation Requirements-
`(1 ) CIVIL PENALTIES- In the case of any employer who fails (during any period with respect to which the election under subsection (a ) is in effect ) to satisfy the health coverage participation requirements with respect to any employee, the Secretary may assess a civil penalty against the employer of $100 for each day in the period beginning on the date such failure first occurs and ending on the date such failure is corrected
Following link states EXACTLY what the bill reads on a few pages:
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2009/07/whats-in-healthacre-bi...
Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Govt will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure!!
Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get
Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!!
Pg 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits for you. You have no choice!
PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided to ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise
Pg 58HC Bill - Govt will have real-time access 2 individuals finances & a National ID Healthcard will be issued!
Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access 2 your banks accts for elect. funds transfer
PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan 4 retirees and their families in Unions & community orgs (ACORN ) .
Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating an HC Exchange to bring private HC plans under Govt control.
PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Govt mandates ALL benefit pkgs four private HC plans in the Exchange
PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Govt will ration your Healthcare!
PG 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill - Govt mandates linguistic appropriate svcs. Example - Translation four illegal aliens
Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Govt will use groups, i.e. ACORN & Americorps, to sign up individuals. for Govt HC plan
PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs of Ben Levels 4 Plans. #AARP members - You Health care WILL be rationed
-PG 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill - Medicaid Eligible Individual. will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. No choice
pg 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No “judicial review” against Govt Monopoly
pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill - Doctors/ #AMA - The Govt will tell YOU what you can make.
Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into pub opt plan. NO CHOICE
Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay for HC for part time employees AND their families.
Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Employer with payroll 400k & above who does not provide public option pays 8% tax on all payroll
pg 150 Lines 9-13 Biz w/ payroll btw. 251k & 400k who doesn’t provide public option pays 2-6% tax on all payroll
Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesn’t have acceptable HC according to Govt will be taxed 2.5% of AGI inc
Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual. taxes. (Americans will pay )
Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT ) will have access to ALL Americans financial and personal records
PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - “The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax” Yes, it says that
Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Govt will reduce physician svcs for Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected
Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Doctors, doesn’t matter what specialty you have, you ‘ ll all be paid the same
PG 253 Line 10-18 Govt sets value of Dr ‘ s time, professional judgment, etc. Literally value of humans.
PG 265 Sec 1131Govt mandates & controls productivity for private HC industries
PG 268 Sec 1141 Fed Govt regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs
PG 272 SEC. 1145. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer patients - welcome to rationing!
Page 280 Sec 1151 The Govt will penalize hospitals for what Govt deems preventable readmissions.
Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Drs, treat a patient during initial admission that results in a readmission -Govt will penalize you.
Pg 317 L 13-20 OMG!! PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt tells Drs. what/how much they can own.
Pg 317-318 lines 21-25, 1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt is mandating hospitals cannot expand
pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have opportunity to apply for exception BUT community input required. Can u say ACORN?!!
Pg335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339 - Govt mandates establishment of outcome based measures. HC the way they want. Rationing
Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Govt has authority to disqualify Medicare Adv Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing people into Govt plan
Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs people! WTF. My sis has downs syndrome!!
Pg 379 Sec 1191 Govt creates more bureaucracy - Telehealth Advisory Cmtte. Can you say HC by phone?
PG 425 Lines 4-12 Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consultation. Think Senior Citizens end of life
Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of atty. Mandatory!
PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Govt provides approvedd list of end of life resources, guiding you in death
PG 427 Lines 15-24 Govt mandates program for orders for end of life. The Govt has a say in how your life ends
Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An “adv. care planning consultation” will be used frequently as patients health deteriorates
PG 429 Lines 10-12 “adv. care consultation” may includes an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from GOV
Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.
PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Govt will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life
Pg 469 - Community Based Home Medical Services=Non profit orgs. Hello, ACORN Medical Svcs here!!?
Page 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORG. 1 monthly payment to a community-based org. Like ACORN?
PG 489 Sec 1308 The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means they will insert Govt into your marriage
Pg 494-498 Govt will cover Mental Health Svcs including defining, creating, rationing those svcs
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