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To: battletank; Crazieman

“Yes. I’m sure there are lots of places that would take their proof of someone’s birth from a newspaper announcement!”

The newspaper announcement of Obama’s birth was in a Honolulu newspaper. The birth announcements were derived from filings to the health statistics dept in hawaii. The newpaper announcement by itself proves only that someone put in to the bureau of vital statistics to register the birth, which makes it 99% likely that a birth *did* take place in that locality:

http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advertiser0000.gif

However, this also corroborates the fact that state of Hawaii saying “we have Obama’s birth record on file” that they meant these records that were filed on Aug 1961:
http://www.kitv.com/politics/17860890/detail.html

Now there is a 99% chance that they are referring to those same birth records in the announcement. What records would they be. If you ask State of Hawaii for birth records, you will get back a COLB, “Certification of Live Birth” and this is valid certification of birth sufficient for purposes of obtaining a passport, drivers license, etc.
It looks like this:

http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_2.jpg

So the previous 2 facts, including the newspaper announcements (there were 2) and the State of Hawaii PR corroborate Obama’s birth record, and are consistent with the COLB Obama has shared.

The argument has been made that State of Hawaii didn’t vouch for the details of the COLB so it ‘means nothing’, however there are privacy laws which forbid that so the state of Hawaii cannot by law say any more. To assume the COLB is not valid, you would have to assume some highly unlikely events, including State of Hawaii giving the appearance of vouching for a birth record which is instead a very public fraud. In addition, you’d have to explain away the newspaper announcement as not being a record of a local birth (when 99.9% of the time that’s what they are). And then you’d have to assert that the COLB, with a stamp, embossed seal, etc. was a forgery/fraud.

I’d rate the chance of this about 1 in a million.
Far more likely is that the newspaper birth announcement fro Aug 1961 was was it appeared to be - a birth announcement of a local birth, and the COLB is what it appears to be - valid documentation of Obama’s records on file with State of Hawaii.

That doesnt mean Obama’s not hiding something in his bio, but it does mean any claims he was born outside Honolulu are extremely unlikely.


216 posted on 07/27/2009 8:45:05 AM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: WOSG

Maybe now you could explain the reports that the address given in that 99% sure newspaper birth announcement (LOL) is not an address where anyone connected with the de facto president ever lived.

I’ll wait.


218 posted on 07/27/2009 9:07:31 AM PDT by battletank
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