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To: jla
How would "gravitas" enable her to do the tasks required of the President? How will a lack of "gravitas" impede this?

One cannot do the tasks required of a President until one is elected President. Sarah Palin cannot get elected President until she acquires "gravitas."

As for TV "presence" you obviously prefer a phony, constructed and contrived image over an authentic, humble and engaging one.

Come on, jla, you know me better than that and you know that I have supported Sarah Palin from the very first day and you know I have the posts to prove it. I am not part of the cheerleading squad, I calls' em as I sees' em. Before the election I wrote long posts to the effect that Sarah Palin should go to a serious venue, I suggested the National Press Club, make a serious speech about a serious issue, I suggested energy, so that she could acquire the gravitas necessary to be treated respectfully. I warned her against Katie Couric and Gibson and advised her to make a very boring "gravitas" speech instead.

God only knows who advised her to make the speech of resignation which she made. Her poll numbers among Republicans have sunk below Romney's and clearly are not good across the electorate. Before you rule you must get elected. She is not ready for the big leagues. She will not take advice, she will not bring herself up to speed on the issues, she will not be forgiven by the independents and moderates were actually elect a President for these lapses.

We conservatives might be able to nominate a presidential candidate, but we cannot elect one. That does not mean we have to moderate our principles, it does mean we have to articulate our principles in such a way to attract independents and moderates into our tent. My complaint about Palin has nothing to do with substance but it is couched in the reality that she needs forensic study. Wishing Palin were President will not make it so. She has to be able to do the things candidates must do to get elected. She is going to be overwhelmed by media opposition. She has got to be ready for it, she is not and, worse, she shows no disposition to get ready.


57 posted on 07/26/2009 1:54:53 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
OK, I know OED's def. of the word, how are you defining "gravitas"?

Sarah Palin's 'resignation speech' was inspiring, honest and an exemplar of a public servant acting unselfishly in putting her state and it's inhabitants first.

The media hardly "overwhelm" this lady, the polar opposite is true.

Back to "gravitas" - do you suppose Jefferson had it? Reagan? Be careful how you answer, nathan b! :^)

64 posted on 07/26/2009 2:10:19 AM PDT by jla
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To: nathanbedford
warned her against Katie Couric and Gibson and advised her to make a very boring "gravitas" speech instead.

So, you are 100% confident that it was Palin's choice to do those interviews being at the bottom of the ticket? I personally would rather not let the main stream media pick the GOP candidate again.

That does not mean we have to moderate our principles, it does mean we have to articulate our principles in such a way to attract independents and moderates into our tent.

I don't look at what they say, but rather at what they do. Sanford was a great small government conservative, right? I mean he told us he was conservative very articulately. Sarah Palin lives and works as a Conservative and that is good enough for me. I am tired of the elites taking this country to hell.

68 posted on 07/26/2009 2:26:02 AM PDT by Cheap_Hessian
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To: nathanbedford

GOD ONLY KNOWS WHO ADVISED HER (SARAH PALIN) TO MAKE THE SPEECH OF RESIGNATION WHICH SHE MADE. HER POLL NUMBERS AMONG REPUBLICANS HAVE SUNK BELOW ROMNEY’S AND ARE CLEARLY NOT GOOD ACROSS THE ELECTORATE...WE HAVE TO ARTICULATE OUR PRINCIPLES IN SUCH A WAY TO ATTRACT INDEPENDENTS AND MODERATES INTO OUR TENT.

Your proposition regarding Sarah Palin at this time is NOT accurate. Let me deal first with the public response right after the resignation. PPP conducted a “Palin” poll right after which they released July 7th which showed that from the last PPP poll on June 18th to July 7th (3 weeks) Sarah Palin’s favorables/unfavorables went up 7 points overall and 3 points in her favorables (46/45). This was confirmed basically by Gallup in July 16th which had Sarah’s favorables/unfavorables at 43/45. and PPP on July 21st at 47/45. Then of the same day Rasmussen released a poll (conducted post-resignation) which showed Romney at 25% and Palin at 24% in a horserace for 2012 with Palin having the highest favorables among voters who consider national security and cultural issues as their number one issue and was tied with Romney in those who considered the economy the number one issue and on July 7th USA/Gallup released a poll that 72% of Republicans and 44% of indies would vote for Sarah.

Now with regards to Romney you are flat wrong. The PPP poll on July 20th reveals a significant gap between Palin and Romney in many favorable/unfavorable categories:
F UF
OVERALL
PALIN 47 45
ROMNEY 37 37

ALL CONSERVATIVES
PALIN 73 18
ROMNEY 53 20

ALL REPUBLICANS
PALIN 76 19
ROMNEY 54 25

MODERATE REPUB
PALIN 64
ROMNEY 45

CONSERV REPUB
PALIN 81
ROMNEY 58

Again nathanbedford you are flat wrong.

And finally Palin’s standing among moderates and independents have gone up substantially. with moderates, Sarah is #1 among moderate Republicans at 64% (and also #1 with conservative Republicans at 81%) according to the PPP poll on July 20th and if you look at Sarah’s favorables/unfavorables with independents since May 21st which PPP showed at 34/58 and then on July 20th which it showed at 45/43 which is a 26 point turnaround in 2 months.

And finally on July 20th Rasmussen released a poll that showed in a head-to-head matchup voters would vote 45% for Romney and 45% for Obama and 48% for Obama and 42% for Obama. If this is your sole justification for claiming that Sarah is lagging behind Romney then I believe your analysis is flawed because of the evidence provided by the crosstabs but I could also make the claim that by Sarah only trailing the Messiah 6 points does make her also a credible candidate for the presidency in 2012.


91 posted on 07/26/2009 8:21:04 AM PDT by techno
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