CBO deals new blow to health plan

The Politco ^ | 7/25/2009 | Chris Frater

[upchuck]

Make that a -9nobama lie.

Yeah, isn't that amazing? A -8 this morning, a -9 tonight.

[SeattleBruce]

"Just imagine if a conservative tried to pull this kind of power grab! The press would be having large cows trying to stop him."
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Right...Woodward and Bernstein kinda stuff would be happening all over DC...instead we get this:

[mojitojoe]

Of course you can. I got it here from another Freeper but I can’t remember who did it.

[mojitojoe]

Danae,
Can we get that list to all of the Blue Dogs and Republican’s? We can clean it up and it needs to go viral!

[musicman]

BFLR

[ChiEs]

This bill will cut costs to Medicare by denying/rationing surgeries, tests, treatments to seniors, thereby killing seniors by denying them treatment. And then mandating that seniors meet with the government every five years to discuss end-of-life options...do we take more pills to ease the pain due to denial of treatment by the govt., or better yet, choose to be a do not resuscitate patient, and then there's hospice, where they will keep us comfortable with more pills/shots while we continue to slowly die from lack of treatment/tests/surgeries that the govt has chosen to deny us. Who in the hell does obama think he is to tell us that we must die from lack of care, and/or discuss our health choices with his cronies..govt, butt out! This is not Germany, or Auschwitz, and no man or woman has the power to determine who shall live and who shall die. This is the United States of America and we choose freedom, NOT SOCIALISM/COMMUNISM. The word is getting out to all seniors and we are mad a hell. Write, call your politicians and demand they stop obama & his “health care bill”, or we will stop THEM at the voting booth..it's not a threat, just a FIRM promise, the kind of “change, THEY had better believe in.

[bustinchops]

Gradually, Americans are realizing this entire government health insurance concept is, in reality, a perfect illustration of the truth that one cannot place a square peg in a round hole. No matter how hard they try to shoehorn a fit, it cannot ever be shown to work because it won’t. It’s the multi-trillion dollar boondoggle guaranteed to sink what’s left of this country, which is rapidly circling the bowl.

[bustinchops]

This is part of ostammer’s and the left’s reparations. It started with the stimuloss and ACORN. The bureaucratic functionaries hired to sort of administer the ‘health plan’ will be mostly black. They, in turn, will grant indigent status to any blacks who apply for it, which will be a huge number of people, no questions asked. Other smaller reparations arrangements will be inherent in the plan, such as the payments to universities accepting a substantially large number of minority (meaning black) students into medical school. That ought to make for some great health care, since most black students can’t pass math or science without dumbing the standards down to 2+2. Meanwhile, middle-class whitey will pay the freight while they bury their parents who needn’t have died so soon.

[rlmorel]

Interestingly, the dirty little secret is that Democrats could pass these bills and make them law without any Republicans on board at all.

And Obama just recently acknowledged that the phone calls and other things are being heard. He was exhorting people to call and express their support his legislation, because the Senate and House members offices are “only hearing one side”.

Hahaha. Fail.

[BunnySlippers]

When it comes to money and spending it’s ALWAYS worse than projected.

Obama is killing this country.

[fhayek]

"In CBO's judgment, the probability is high that no savings would be realized ... but there is also a chance that substantial savings might be realized.

There is a chance that I will date a supermodel, but there is a greater chance that hell will freeze over.

[ducks1944]

Obama & Dems will kill seniors citizens and save lots of $$$$$$$$$ along with as they say mental ill.
We have 75% senior in US Congress...maybe Obama/Dem should start there??
Wonder what Byrd and Kennedy think of that??? Yes I no they will not be in Health care plan they want for us. Just like they do not pay into Social Security and get there salary for life.
My question to all of them is how do they lay head on pillow and look us in eye? If they was including them selfves in there laws lot of this crap would stop PDQ!
I have said for years they do not fight like dogs for these job for what it pays..............it the PERKS the CROOKS get. If we put all the CROOKS in Congress (ie all elected officials) in prison we would save TRILLION & TRILLION of TAX $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!

[ducks1944]

Obama & Dems will kill seniors citizens and save lots of $$$$$$$$$ along with as they say mental ill.
We have 75% senior in US Congress...maybe Obama/Dem should start there??
Wonder what Byrd and Kennedy think of that??? Yes I no they will not be in Health care plan they want for us. Just like they do not pay into Social Security and get there salary for life.
My question to all of them is how do they lay head on pillow and look us in eye? If they was including them selfves in there laws lot of this crap would stop PDQ!
I have said for years they do not fight like dogs for these job for what it pays..............it the PERKS the CROOKS get. If we put all the CROOKS in Congress (ie all elected officials) in prison we would save TRILLION & TRILLION of TAX $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!

[upchuck]

Oops, it’s hard to keep up :)

Now -11. First time in double digits. A two point jump overnight. Wow.

[Styria]

Is there a source for that list that doesn’t editorialize every entry?

[Munz]

“White House hits watchdog on Medicare plan
Orszag says Congressional Budget Office exaggerates costs in saying little would be saved by oversight panel.”

See: http://money.cnn.com/2009/07/25/news/economy/cbo_medicare/?postversion=2009072522

The white house is changing the rules of the game now. They are trying to strong arm the CBO.
What will happen is the same thing that happened with cap and trade.
Muddy the waters with data from all over so that they can convince the nay sayers long enough to get this atrocity passed.

[mojitojoe]

I guess you could take the list and remove the editorial part. I didn’t make the list, another FReeper did. I like the editorial because it’s so complicated, the average sheeple will never be able to comprehend what it means.

[Biggirl]

Another sign that Obamacare is coming to its end, THANKFULLY.

[Biggirl]

The seeds are being planted for change to also take place in 2010.

[Biggirl]

Thankfully the truth about this so-called reform is coming out more and more at last.