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CNN Kills Birther Story (Dobbs under the bus by his boss)
Politico ^ | 7-24-09 | Ben Smith

Posted on 07/24/2009 1:27:45 PM PDT by STARWISE

CNN president kills birther story

TVNewser reports that CNN President Jon Klein has declared a halt to birther coverage -- a tacit shot at Lou Dobbs.

Klein forwarded Dobbs's producers a memo under this heading, which I suspect won't calm the conspiracists:

Since the show's mission is for Lou to be the explainer and enlightener, he should be sure to cite this during your segment tonite. And then it seems this story is dead - because anyone who still is not convinced doesn't really have a legitimate beef.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; cnn; dobbs; joeklein; joeklien; jonklein; kenya; kenyan; liarliar; loudobs; muslim; obamaeligible; underthebus; usurper
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To: Star Traveler
Namely, can someone provide the proof that is needed in order to get “fraud” shown absolutely and in a court of law?

It'll be difficult if the Courts won't even look at the evidence, won't it? That's where we are now.

141 posted on 07/24/2009 4:27:51 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: avacado

Exactly!

It’s TOO LATE to claim the original was “destroyed” when they’re issuing press releases claiming they’ve “seen the original birth certificate on file, and it’s fine.”

Don’t let these bastards “scrub” the birth certificate like they “scrub” the internet. If they try that angle, they’re clearly lying.

Hey Lib trolls: NOBODY BELIEVES YOU.


142 posted on 07/24/2009 4:31:28 PM PDT by Islam=Murder (Omoslem, show us your original Birth Certificate!!)
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To: El Gato

I know people don’t like to give up on paper.... LOL... (just in general, and not just on Obama...), but that’s the way it’s going to go. And people will think differently after they have been born, raised and used *exclusively* all digital. They’ll wonder about our “attachment” to paper...


143 posted on 07/24/2009 4:33:24 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler
States can make laws requiring candidates to produce a birth certificate.

Unless Congress passes a law, or some Court makes a ruling, that requiring certified copies of Birth Certificates is discriminatory, under the 14th amendment's Equal Protection clause. Poor black and brown folks are less likely to have been born in a hospital you know.

Never mind that even for those groups the fraction not born in a hospital, or without a doctor or midwife in attendence is vanishingly small. Probaby there are more white "Sovereign Citizen" types that would refuse to "register" their children, than minorities who would not have a birth certificate".

144 posted on 07/24/2009 4:33:34 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: El Gato

Yeah, that’s it precisely and that’s the reason why I say I like the game plan of the state laws...


145 posted on 07/24/2009 4:34:30 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: El Gato

Well, I would say that the law could be worked out where if a person never had a birth certificate that it could specify other means by which the details could be verified.

My philosophy on that one is “where there’s a will, there’s a way”... and if the intent of the law is to get *documented proof* you can make the law do that...


146 posted on 07/24/2009 4:37:00 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Beckwith

And who knows where that document emanated,
which country, who’s stated as the father, etc.?

As far as I can tell, it’s a meaningless
fluffball of a statement as to any qualitative
or pertinent identifying information.

It would be like me in a poker game, and
saying to someone who asked me what I had:
“Yes, I’m holding some playing cards.”


148 posted on 07/24/2009 4:38:19 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: anglian
Obama is the charismatic puppet

Nah, TOTUS is the Charismatic Puppet. Obama is just a good actor, except that he can't remember his lines, nor maintain his charisma, without TOTUS. We've seen that many time.

149 posted on 07/24/2009 4:38:26 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Star Traveler

Notice it doesn’t say she saw the “long” form, she could just have seen the certificate of live birth that everyone else has seen at this point.


150 posted on 07/24/2009 4:41:06 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: penelopesire
I agree this is EASILY proven to be false, ANYONE and I mean ANYONE who was born in Hawaii before 2001 can just go ask to see their long form birth certificate... if they get to see it, this is a LIE.
151 posted on 07/24/2009 4:43:53 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: TexasFreeper2009

You said — Notice it doesn’t say she saw the “long” form, she could just have seen the certificate of live birth that everyone else has seen at this point.

Well my interpretation of the wording used is that it’s the long form.


... has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record ...


The wording of “original birth certificate” to me means the long form... but if I’m wrong, I sure would like to hear what someone else has found out about that specific thing...


152 posted on 07/24/2009 4:44:52 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler
Yeah, that’s it precisely and that’s the reason why I say I like the game plan of the state laws...

That's fine, but it's really like locking the barn door after the horses have run off. Fine for next time, not much help now. And the Republic needs help, now, not just in 2012.

153 posted on 07/24/2009 4:45:20 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: El Gato

Sure they need help now and nothing stops Republicans/conservatives from battling it out in the political arena in regards to legislation and policies and so on...

But, in regards to getting Obama out of office, I haven’t seen any good results in that area. In fact, I see nothing that will work — short of that state law that I’m talking about.

Now, if someone can do it, then they should have done it a long time ago... LOL..

It appears to me that no one can do it, which was one of those points that I was making...


154 posted on 07/24/2009 4:47:44 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: avacado

“In November 2008 the Director of Health for the State of Hawaii said they had his original long form and that she saw it. Yet CNN says it was destroyed in 2001? Big lies!!!”

Oh wait, i just figured out what happened....

The director of health saw the birth certificate, announced the long-form document is legit, but then FIGURED THEY DIDN’T NEED IT ANY MORE, SO THEY GOT IN A TIME MACHINE, TRAVELED BACK 8 YEARS AGO, and SHREDDED THE PRESIDENT’S LONG-FORM CERTIFICATE to create bedding for their child’s hamster cage.

Ah! Finally this makes sense.


155 posted on 07/24/2009 4:48:05 PM PDT by Islam=Murder (Omoslem, show us your original Birth Certificate!!)
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To: Star Traveler
Notice it doesn’t say she saw the “long” form, she could just have seen the certificate of live birth that everyone else has seen at this point.

No, she said *original birth certificate*. The Cerfication, a purported image of which is all anyone else has seen, is not the Original. It's not even a copy of the original. At best it's a copy of part of the information on the original, and it's not extracted directly from the original, but from a database, which has data input from the original.

156 posted on 07/24/2009 4:50:21 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: El Gato; TexasFreeper2009

That was “TexasFreeper2009” that you are responding to, as I didn’t say that...

See post #150... :-)


157 posted on 07/24/2009 4:55:17 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: anglian

post 139 continued.—> After years of failed attempts to get the Communist Party - http://www.cpusa.org/ - or Socialist Party - http://www.sp-usa.org/ off the ground in America, leadership in the movement adopted a different, much more successful strategy.

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As both communism and socialism prey on the proletariat (working class) for political power, the old “party of the people” seemed like the best party to work within.

The Democratic Socialists of America http://www.dsausa.org/dsa.html The Democratic Socialists of America was formed as a spin-off of the Socialist Party USA for the stated purpose of working from inside the Democrat Party through its legislative arm, the Progressive Congressional Caucus. The Progressive Congressional Caucus, which now has more than sixty members seated in congress, all of whom played a significant roll in causing the current financial crisis.
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In a PDF file issued by the Democratic Socialists of America, they answer the question,,,,

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http://www.dsausa.org/pdf/widemsoc.pdf
The lie in the leftist campaign is the notion that socialism/communism are somehow acceptable, if achieved via democratic process. But it’s actually worse... Being thrust into chains by force is one thing; but voting yourself into bondage is something quite different.
Hat tip: American Patriots For Truth and Equality
http://apfte.net/


158 posted on 07/24/2009 5:02:46 PM PDT by anglian (0bama's Stealth Reparations: "Mouthfulls of 'Gimme' and handfulls of 'Much 0bliged'")
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To: STARWISE

I think the story is still quite alive in the rest of the media. Those 600 or so poor suckers who still watch CNN will be missing out on some big news soon...


159 posted on 07/24/2009 9:14:46 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Red Steel
Under the law, Obama has the legal burden of PROVING he is eligible. The people DO NOT have the burden of having to chase this evidence around the globe. You want to stay in the White House, Obama? You produce the proof or you get your foreign *ss out of the Oval Office. Chicago Rules, dude...

If the records have been destroyed, well... he had better start packing his things...

160 posted on 07/24/2009 9:18:09 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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