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HR 2749: Food Safety’s Scorched Earth Policy
Farm Wars ^ | 7/22/09

Posted on 07/23/2009 5:11:36 AM PDT by FromLori

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To: uncommonsense

I sure agree about the illegal aliens sickening.


21 posted on 07/23/2009 5:43:55 AM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: Concho

Call and write our congressmen and say no to HR 2749! I did! It is draconian.


22 posted on 07/23/2009 5:47:37 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Jim Thompson for POTUS)
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To: P8riot

We are not talking about hybrids here. Hybrids are when you take two varieties and allow them to cross pollinate naturally getting a hybrid. It is like taking a Herford cow and breeding her to an Angus bull to get a black-whiteface calf.

What we are dealing with here is that Monsanto has gone into the DNA of these seeds and spliced in genes from other plants, animals, bacteria and who knows what to create genetic mutations. These new genetic mutations may carry special proteins that kill corn insects so that they dont need to spray, but they also kill honeybees that gather pollen. We are talking about some serious stuff here that if allowed to get into Monsantos control will violate all the anti trust laws and monopoly laws on the books. Waxman doesnt care about that, it is all about control.


23 posted on 07/23/2009 6:02:57 AM PDT by Concho ( No Birth Certificate-No Census!)
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To: Red_Devil 232; nw_arizona_granny; DelaWhere; TenthAmendmentChampion; JDoutrider

>>> Ping to the Weekly Gardening list.

Thought this would be of interest. <<

They never give up in the never ending power grab.. Thank you for the heads up on this little piece of HE**.

here is the open congress link :

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h2749/show

# Rep. John Dingell [D, MI-15]
# and 5 Co-Sponsors

* Rep. Diana DeGette [D, CO-1]
* Rep. Frank Pallone [D, NJ-6]
* Rep. Bart Stupak [D, MI-1]
* Rep. Betty Sutton [D, OH-13]
* Rep. Henry Waxman [D, CA-30]

Monsanto...

Monsanto’s Agent Orange:
The Persistent Ghost from the Vietnam War

http://www.organicconsumers.org/monsanto/agentorange032102.cfm


24 posted on 07/23/2009 6:03:11 AM PDT by Eagle50AE (Pray for our Armed Forces.)
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To: Red_Devil 232; FromLori

Well, for STARTERS...I’d move the ‘Ef’ out of California, LOL!

Thre’s going to be such a DELICIOUS Economic Underground created here. I can’t WAIT to be a part of it. :)

“Anyone need eggs or zucchini? I’ve got plenty these days. What ya got to trade me?”

See how easy it’s going to be when we cut Government OUT of the picture? ;)


25 posted on 07/23/2009 6:03:15 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: FromLori

No question, there are many onerous aspects of the proposed NAIS plan that should have never seen the light of day.

There is a real concern for readiness by our state’s animal health officials and APHIS for a bioterroristic attack of something like Hoof and Mouth Disease which would devastate animal agriculture should it ever rear its ugly head on US soil.

For example, the impact and cost of Newcastle Disease upon poultry producers a few years ago was borne by a backyard fighting chicken CA operation. This disease spread cost untold millions of dollars to the industry and the federal govt to check its advance.

Many producers argue that NAIS is 1) Too costly, 2) Impacts confidentiality and 3) heightens fear of liability. Having said that, I would agree that they are within their rights to express their concerns. However, there is an incredible amount of misinformation that is being churned out by many of the websites like the one you referenced.

It would be foolhardy and shortsighted for anyone to assume that that the risk of an foreign animal disease is zero or that the present methods of resolving a trace back or forward in a timely manner are adequate. If a significant disease situation were to arise where time is precious, would our respective state animal health and APHIS officials have adequate information and the tools to contain it in a timely fashion with a minimal impact on our nation’s food supply, trade restrictions, etc?

In general, our society is being further removed from the realities of present day food production. Long term, I am fearful of the impact of increasing regulation on the ability of many of our nation’s food producers to stay in business. Personally, I am concerned what could happen if there is a short term shortage of food because of a variety of plausible scenarios that might unfold?

I apologize for my long post. I deal with this issue first hand on a daily basis.

My two cents.

MFO


26 posted on 07/23/2009 6:06:37 AM PDT by Man from Oz
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To: FromLori

These are the same idiots that restrict the growth of real sugar - sugar cane but yet, corn syrup permeates almost all of our foods, therefore, why do we have a lot of obesity, diabetes. Along with it, a coming disorder - fatty liver. It is because of the big money from the big corporate farms. Just like the war on trans fats, we need to have war on corn syrup. Not too many people know but corn syrup is hard on the liver !Fatty liver use to just come from excessive drinking but it is coming from poor diet as well - a lot of food with corn syrup.


27 posted on 07/23/2009 6:10:29 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: DustyMoment

The new agriculture regulations in this bill should help make America into a Robert Mugabe-style agricultural paradise (/sarc).

Perhaps.

I see more of a 1920’s Ukraine type famine in the near future.


28 posted on 07/23/2009 6:13:37 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: FromLori

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29 posted on 07/23/2009 6:20:34 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: uncommonsense
I have an idea - enforce the borders and don't employ illegal aliens who poop in the fields where they work

And stop importing food from China, a country that doesn't even care if it poisons its own.
30 posted on 07/23/2009 6:24:22 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: FromLori
Excerpt:

The Real Problem

The problem does not lie squarely in the lap of the farmer, where this legislation places it. It lies in the processing that happens after the produce leaves the farm.

This legislation pronounces a death sentence on all small farmers, organic growers, and our nation’s very health as well, yet fails to address the real problem. “Industry rules won’t stop lawsuits or eliminate the risk of processed greens cut in fields, mingled in large baths, put in bags that must be chilled from packing plant to kitchen, and shipped thousands of miles away” (Marler, B).

31 posted on 07/23/2009 6:26:44 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: Man from Oz

Good points, but taxing the producers out of existence with these regulations isnt going to increase anyones revenue either.


32 posted on 07/23/2009 6:28:21 AM PDT by Concho ( No Birth Certificate-No Census!)
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To: Concho

Farmers haven’t ‘saved’ seed from previous crops for decades now. Seed is specially grown, with stains being cross pollinated for very precise seed quality crops.

That’s why yields have more than doubled in the past 50 years.

My tagline isn’t just an idle boast of the American Famer, it’s been true for more than 50 years.


33 posted on 07/23/2009 6:42:41 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries for the American farmer.)
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To: DustyMoment

Perhaps by farming half the land that big operators/investors/non farmer groups that have purchased land and put into CRP or formerly soil bank under the guise of wetlands. Amazing how nice it is to get a check from Uncle Same for each acre that is pulled out of activity. Funny thing, drie through Iowas and look at CRP ground that is not utilized but nowhere near water or even close to a flood plain.

Production? 1970’s a 100 bushel acre corn crop was exceptional. Today, farmers worry if they don’t hit the 200 bushel/acre rate, and competitors have already crossed the 300 bushel mark. Amazing ... the food shortage, food quality, deficiency of mineral is of the sam ilk as global warming.

“The sky is falling and we must tell the king.” Waikey up ameeerika .... you are now a country of chicken littles. ( Icall them “chicken*****” ...well you get the idea)


34 posted on 07/23/2009 6:55:41 AM PDT by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: Balding_Eagle

You farm a lot?

We still save seed for replanting. It is the Monsantos of the industry that has driven the prices of seed up to where 100 bu yields wont pay the costs for raising the crop, and 200 will barely. Dont harp about the farmers, look at Monsanto and Pioneer and those people who drive the price of $3 worth of seed to over $100.

That specially grown seed is the genetic mutations that Monsanto is working so hard to protect. If they get this through, then Monsanto will tell you what you can eat.


35 posted on 07/23/2009 7:23:10 AM PDT by Concho ( No Birth Certificate-No Census!)
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To: HiramQuick

We’re not talking about large corporate enterprises, here, we’re talking about small farmers and, in this particular case, the guy I was talking to was from a small farm of around 200 acres in S. Texas.

We aren’t talking about crop YIELDS, we’re talking about expensive requirements the federal government is placing on these farmers that have to do with adding costs to the farmer that they can’t get back at market because the market won’t bear the prices.


36 posted on 07/23/2009 7:25:05 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Concho

I farmed in MN until 1986 when I sold to my share to my brothers.

The only seed we ever saved and planted were soybeans and small grains, and after better soybean seed came out we bought.

We never planted saved corn seed, as the difference was so great. Maybe 30 or 40 bushels for saved seed, 90 to 140 bushels per acre with commercially produced corn seed. I can’t recall anyone ever planting their own corn seed since I can remember back to the 50’s.


37 posted on 07/23/2009 7:55:56 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries for the American farmer.)
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To: Eagle50AE

Any idea how this could impact home vegetable gardens? I forsee when there are food shortages and home gardeners will be labeled “selfish”.


38 posted on 07/23/2009 7:59:12 AM PDT by MtnClimber (Bernard Madoff's ponzi scheme looks remarkably similar to the way Social Security works)
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To: CholeraJoe
Vegetables are what Food eats.

If they pass this, they'll do the same thing to "Food".

Urbanites don't comprehend that food of all kinds (Food, or Food's food) comes from a dirty, bloody, infested world - and to sterilize/sanitize/purify all of it is to eliminate it, and us.

Every kid needs to farm & hunt at some point to understand this fact.

39 posted on 07/23/2009 8:13:07 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: FromLori

It won’t be any big deal, we already use food as fuel in our vehicles. The country will bend over backwards to carry out the federal government’s bidding.

I’m thinking it’s already too late.


40 posted on 07/23/2009 8:47:20 AM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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