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To: Defiant
I have serious issues with Barack Obama ... and when a Freeper allows a liberal talking point to color their thinking, I pounce on it for what it is.

During the campaign, Axelrod used a method of layering lies onto any controversial issue regarding his 'boy'. The first lie was usually as seemingly innocent as implying 'Obama may have soemthing embarrassing on his birth certificate and he shouldn't be shamed just to prevent him running.'

You promoted that little 'innocent' deceit for him with your posts. The issue is not his embarrassment, it is his criminal behavior and possible ineligibility to hold office and him knowing damned well he is ineligible because he is suing any means he can to prevent anyone finding out just how ineligible he is!

Yeah, I've got serious issues with aiding this affirmative action fraud and his lying criminal enablers. I am sensitive to agitprops playing Freepers for idiots, too, by repeating the lies floated by Axelrod's astroturfing machine to cover for his bastard-in-chief.

243 posted on 07/24/2009 5:20:27 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
MHG, you are a caricature of a conservative. Instead of thinking, you are foaming at the mouth. Your kind is the kind that liberals plant here to make real conservatives look like lunatics. I would not doubt that that is your purpose here; it has happened before, once quite recently.

I'm comfortable with the position that Obama ought to be required to show his birth certificate, even though I think the likelihood is that he was born in Hawaii. He needs to prove he was born in Hawaii, just like I have to provide my BC to get a passport even though everyone "knows" I was born in MO, and my kids have to show a BC to go to school and play little league baseball.

None of the wild-ass speculation about where he was born makes a bit of a difference. The point is that it's up to him to prove where he was born, NOT US, and he hasn't. Why he doesn't produce a BC is unknown at this time. You don't know and neither do I. You think, based on some pretty flimsy evidence, that it's because he wasn't born in HI. I look at the existing evidence and come to the conclusion that it is likely (not conclusive, but likely) that he was born in HI, and therefore, there is probablya different reason that he is obstructing the truth.

But the point is, neither of us knows jack. We weren't there. Although I have seen his mom naked, it wasn't at the right moment. Neither of us will truly know the reason for his concealment until someone forces him to produce the BC.

I know you are beyond reason on this, but maybe I can reach some others who have been enticed by the lovely dream of eligibility. Hopefully those others will step back from the brink of lunacy and calm down enough to focus on what needs to be done--get the birth certificate!

246 posted on 07/24/2009 6:35:04 PM PDT by Defiant (Republican elites reject conservatism with great conviction and reject Marxism unless it is popular.)
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