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To: bluescape
So conclusive we don't need to bother with actual documentation for this president like we do with every other person in the universe.

You are adding words that I did not say. Don't do that.

Where were you for the past 18 months? I have been saying he should have to provide his birth certificate from the very beginning of this. I have to gather BCs from 8 year olds for little league teams. You would think the President of the US would have to show his at some point in this process.

I believe there is something he is hiding that is on that BC, maybe a religion, maybe his real father, who knows. But if you are taking odds, the odds that he was born in Hawaii is about 100-1. You can concoct scenarios that he was born in Kenya, or Canada, and that the newspaper announcement was called in, that the mom left Hawaii and college, with a very expensive flight to the mainland, and the on to some foreign country, late in the pregnancy, that they made a long distance international call to a newspaper to post an announcement just so they could prove, 48 years later, that their newborn son was born in the US.

Show me the newspaper announcement is phony and that changes things. To have concocted an ad would show that there is a need to create a birth in Hawaii. I have seen no information anywhere that says that the newspaper ad is phony, just some speculation that it might be photoshop. In all this time, hasn't anyone gotten the original newspaper from the archives to check if it really was in there?

If the newpaper notice is genuine, the odds are pretty damn high that he was born in Hawaii. Medved, who I don't like very much, is right about that.

221 posted on 07/24/2009 9:50:58 AM PDT by Defiant (Republican elites reject conservatism with great conviction and reject Marxism unless it is popular.)
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To: Defiant
"If the newpaper notice is genuine, the odds are pretty damn high that he was born in Hawaii." That is rather absurd when we know that the state of Hawaii allowed people to obtain Hawaiian certification of birth even if not born there and the parents were not Hawaiians (Sun YAt Sen's Hawaiian issued BC as an example).

You are doing precisely what a the criminal wants you to do, focus upon the exhibit as if because you can see it it MUST be valid, not false information. We are reasonably sure the Obamas never lived at the address listed in the exhibit. That is ignored because you want to believe the lie. We know that the exhibited CoLB on the Internet is not valid for court use because we have the sworn affidavit of a retired FBI documents expert in the Keyes v Bowen case stating exactly that! You want to believe a lie and so does the useful idiot, Medved. So believe it! But stop trying to feed us the same crap you've swallowed that you want to call a baby ruth.

228 posted on 07/24/2009 12:42:25 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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