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10 dying IT skills (No matter how good you are with these skills, you won't get a job today)
Tech Republic ^ | June 28,2009 | Linda Leung

Posted on 07/21/2009 5:31:52 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

So SAP experts make in the neighborhood of 65-70 bucks an hour?!!!

Wow, time for me to go to school I guess...

135 - 145K a year to work in SAP all day long....

Maybe that’s still not enough. I really hate school!


121 posted on 07/22/2009 5:53:30 AM PDT by jurroppi1 (We need to reward the people that carry the water instead of the people that drink the water!)
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To: IronJack

Sounds like a plan. I can remember avoiding the use of index registers because not all S/360s had them - was a priced feature, as was the decimal instruction set.

And I remember looking up instruction timings for real-time code to optimize it.

Overlay programming, anyone?

I earned every one of these gray hairs!


122 posted on 07/22/2009 5:57:42 AM PDT by NCjim ("Lies have to be covered up, truth can run around naked." - Johnny Cash)
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To: NCjim

hehe.. And that reminds me, during college we had Niklaus Wirth visit to give a lecture on language design using his Modula-2 as an example. It turned into a two hour rant about C.


123 posted on 07/22/2009 5:59:06 AM PDT by kenth
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To: AAABEST

HTML is there, but it is far low on the skill set for the designer, and it’ll be hard getting a job with that as your main skill. You don’t do that much with it these days, as it is mostly a container for CSS and JavaScript.


124 posted on 07/22/2009 6:42:49 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: AAABEST

Exactly, at the end of the day, all of these web frameworks’ only job is to ultimately generate HTML and Javascript.

I have switched to using Apache Wicket for web development. It’s great! No more embedded scriptlets, or tons of XML configuration. Just plain HTML and Java backing classes. I can use any HTML editor to design the look and feel with CSS.


125 posted on 07/22/2009 6:53:00 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: rahbert
C will never be obsolete. It will always come up during interviews!

Why can't you just code in B? /Pointy-Headed Manager

126 posted on 07/22/2009 6:53:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve been looking at Scala. It runs on the JVM and combines the best of both Object-Oriented and Functional programming languages (like Erlang). I could see it one day replacing Java as the primary JVM language.


127 posted on 07/22/2009 6:56:15 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
Exactly, at the end of the day, all of these web frameworks’ only job is to ultimately generate HTML and Javascript.

That is not 100% correct. Some of the newer frameworks such as Silverlight do not use HTML or JavaScript except as a launching point. They run through their own plug-in/shell.

128 posted on 07/22/2009 7:06:26 AM PDT by wireplay
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To: SeekAndFind

The fact that VB is still going up disgusts me. What was kept around to lure VB programmers to .NET so they can be weaned off onto a real language is actually being used for real production. It can’t even natively multi-thread.

It’s just strange that any company would seriously consider programming any new application in VB. Use the skill for maintenance maybe, but rewrite it as they go if they’re smart, to c# if staying on Windows.

/rant


129 posted on 07/22/2009 7:13:32 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: discostu
On the other hand there are many terrible programmers

I've worked with those, "My code is perfect. You won't be able to find one thing wrong with it." Famous last words.

It's an attitude problem. Anyone who takes QA dings as a personal offense needs to find another field. Anyone who sees QA as a chance to improve his code is someone I want to work with, since that's the kind of programmer I am.

130 posted on 07/22/2009 7:20:14 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: grey_whiskers

emacs has everything but a nice text editor. vi forever!


131 posted on 07/22/2009 8:01:52 AM PDT by gura (R-MO)
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To: tacticalogic

How is that a skill? Any UNIX guy who doesn’t want to be caned like a American teenage painting graffiti in Singapore can script in multiple languages.


132 posted on 07/22/2009 8:04:20 AM PDT by gura (R-MO)
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To: Glenn

If we didn’t keep deciding every few sprints that we’ve got a better plan we might actually accomplish something. Seems just at the point where it’s starting to look like an application the etch-a-sketch shake happens. But even without all the reboots I find user stories just insulting.


133 posted on 07/22/2009 8:06:22 AM PDT by discostu (Jeff's imagination has gone beyond the fringe of audience comprehension)
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To: SeekAndFind

I can draw a snowman in GWBASIC, but my Turbo Pascal skills are getting rusty.


134 posted on 07/22/2009 8:06:33 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: gura
How is that a skill? Any UNIX guy who doesn’t want to be caned like a American teenage painting graffiti in Singapore can script in multiple languages.

It was just an observation on the language itself. Why the hostility over it?

135 posted on 07/22/2009 8:16:19 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

It’s important to be partners in making a better product. I always try to keep in mind that it’s my job to call the developers’ baby ugly and that it’s understandable for them to get a little defensive once in a while and to just ride that initial wave so we can get to productive talk. And it’s important for me not to be accusatory, always try to avoid phrases like “screw up” and “your bug”, keep it neutral, it’s a bug they happen now let’s fix it.

But some guys just can’t handle it. I had one always argumentative developer tell me that since he had a masters he didn’t believe anyone with less that a bachelors should be testing his code, I replied that it didn’t even take a high school diploma to double click on the icon and watch his application crash and maybe he shouldn’t be worrying about our qualifications. Nobody liked Pierre.


136 posted on 07/22/2009 8:16:47 AM PDT by discostu (Jeff's imagination has gone beyond the fringe of audience comprehension)
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To: gura

Well, course you have to picket outside MuSnot and chant about how proprietary software is the same as theft! Free beer, code and sex all around! Oh, wait, we don’t have any girls....scratch that last part!


137 posted on 07/22/2009 8:20:21 AM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: SeekAndFind
10: COBOL

I [don't] Enjoy DP.

138 posted on 07/22/2009 8:22:22 AM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: Nervous Tick
Sounds like the kinda guy you wouldn’t want to be in the same boat with.

Are you kidding me? After about 15 minutes, I'd be asking to borrow the drill.

139 posted on 07/22/2009 8:24:00 AM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: AppyPappy
COBOL is still in demand.

Heck, I can thank my COBOL and MVS/JCL skills for surviving the last purge where I work. Even though I'd not used them much in the past 20 years, the fact that I could and WOULD program in COBOL and even a little BAL was the tipping point between me and another guy in my department.

140 posted on 07/22/2009 8:26:48 AM PDT by ssaftler (OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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