Posted on 07/21/2009 11:03:20 AM PDT by La Lydia
American Border Patrol has released a new online map of the Southwest border that shows the where and what type of fencing is installed between San Diego, California and Brownsville, Texas. Viewers can open a map of Border Patrol sectors and then click on a given sector to see where fencing and vehicle barriers have been installed. Numbers along the border represent individual photographs of the border taken from ABP's airplane. A click on a number reveals details of the type of fencing or vehicle barriers that have been installed.
http://americanpatrol.com/ABP/SURVEYS/BORDER-2009/Border-Main-20009.html
The ABP data represents the current status of the border as most construction, with the exception of eastern Texas, was halted in early 2009. ABP surveyed the border from Douglas, Arizona to San Diego on June 3, 2009. The survey from Douglas to Brownsville Texas was performed on April 13 and 14 of 2009. ABP plans to update the Texas survey in August.
"As funding allows, we will continue to refine these maps by adding even more detailed photographs and high definition video," said Glenn Spencer of ABP. Spencer said it was important for members of Congress to be aware of what has been done on the border before they make decisions regarding future needs. The new map was produced as part of Operation B.E.E.F., a project first launched by ABP in November of 2006.
http://images.chron.com/blogs/txpotomac/border_fence.jpg
This is what a lot of the fence looks like on the ground:
http://blogs.chron.com/immigration/archives/border%20fence
http://www.ktsm.com/files/ktsm/media/news/5-20-09_bordersecurity6.jpg
http://watergaps.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/img_87731.jpg
And finally, my favorite, from Yuma sector:
http://www.duneguide.com/images/ISDRA-BorderFence-8.jpg
The work of the Texas Witch , Senator Kay the "Female Dog" Hutchinson
You know, I could answer your question, both in the aggregate and and by individual segment and/or type of fence. But I have exchanged views with you before and you have insulted me in extremely nasty, ad hominem and gratuitous (look it up) ways on more than one occasion. So I decline.
I also found this, which doesn't indicate if it is authorization or appropriations, at
http://www.lvrj.com/news/50575427.html
Senate pushes border fence work
Vote says 700 miles must be finished by end of 2010
By STEVE TETREAULT
STEPHENS MEDIA BUREAU
WASHINGTON -- The Senate voted last week to require the government to speed work on security fences being built along the U.S. border with Mexico. Senators voted 54-44 for an amendment requiring 700 miles of fencing be completed by Dec. 31, 2010. Sponsoring Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., said officials claim 661 miles of fencing has been completed, but that includes vehicle barriers and single-layer fencing....
Saw Napolitano on C-SPAN trying to kill it again this morning. Thanks for the update. I trust your info more than others.
Oh, my gosh! You’re right! There’s no way anyone can get through this:
http://americanpatrol.com/ABP/SURVEYS/BORDER-2009/RIO-GRANDE/EAST-RG/01.html
http://americanpatrol.com/ABP/SURVEYS/BORDER-2009/RIO-GRANDE/EAST-RG/08.html
http://americanpatrol.com/ABP/SURVEYS/BORDER-2009/RIO-GRANDE/EAST-RG/10.html
http://americanpatrol.com/ABP/SURVEYS/BORDER-2009/RIO-GRANDE/EAST-RG/11.html
http://americanpatrol.com/ABP/SURVEYS/BORDER-2009/RIO-GRANDE/EAST-RG/20.html
Never heard of walking around a barrier? There’s hundreds of miles where there is no fence whatsoever or when there is a fence it’s nothing more than a wire between two posts. Yep, real hard to get across.
The Committee retains bill language making no funds available for obligation for fencing or tactical infrastructure for which the Secretary intends to waive environmental or other legislation until 15 days after the intention to invoke such authority is published in the Federal Register. In addition, the Committee continues bill language stating no BSFIT funds may be obligated until the Secretary certifies that DHS has complied with the consultation provisions of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996.
Also, they cut the funding for the virtual fence.
I agree with you. No way they are going to be stopped by something that is still under construction. Seriously, though, the fence was and is being built at locations that the Border Patrol determined it would be most effective. There are geographical barriers in many places that aren’t visible in all the photos. Far be it from me to second-guess them. If I had my way, we would have double fencing the entire length of the border. But I am not Queen yet, so I have to be happy with what we have. My reason for posting this was mostly to show what great work Glenn Spencer has done. Sorry to have offended you in any way.
The existing fencing is worthless. Yet, you give it gushing praise. If the Dems cut the Demint amendment out along with the Sessions amendment on e-verify, then our borders remain essentially open and welcoming to illegals.
That is vehicle fence. It is designed to block vehicles bringing in drugs across very rugged, remote terrain where pedestrians are less likely to try to cross (or will die trying).
I don’t know where you live. Have you gone and looked at different segments of the fence in person? I have, and a great deal of it is working the way it was designed to work. Some of the BP sectors have seen a 60 percent reduction in wetbacks. We definitely need e-verify.
One of things they mentioned is the presence of hundreds of armed illegal aliens INSIDE OUR COUNTRY acting as lookouts for the drug smugglers along the border. They communicate with the drug smugglers on the Mexican side of the border pointing out where the BP is located and what avenues to take to get inside the US without detection and interdiction. I can't recall the name for these lookouts, but according to Spencer, their existence came as something of a surprise to some of the US officials that were briefed on this issue. There is a shooting war going on at the border.
The bottom line is that we are not doing enough. Again, I do not understand why you are so enthusiastic and full of praise for these meager efforts. Jim DeMint understands that the situation is far from satisfactory.
I am convinced that Obama and those supporting an amnesty, want to paint this rosy picture so they can go ahead with CIR. These sad pictures of single layer fencing should be a cause for concern, not praise.
Excuse me for admiring the engineering and construction work that went into the fence we have. I agree with you that we are not doing enough. But I would never dismiss the work of many people who I know were working in good faith in a very political environment to build something like they have. Pardon my enthusiasm. And as far as the MSM and the administration go, they have gone out of their way to say repeatedly that the fence doesn’t work, when parts of it work very. Remember, fence in and of itself doesn’t work, we also need more law enforcement personnel and more technology to make the fence work. We need more fence, and we need more double-layer fence, like what we’ve built in San Diego that Glenn didn’t get a chance to photograph. Again, Virginia neighbor, I apologize for my appreciation of the fence if it offends you that much.
The BP folks are not happy with the current situation. Neither am I. Obama, McCain, and others pay lip service to border security, but the reality is that they have held border security hostage to the passage of CIR. The do no favor enforcement first. If you read the 2007 McCain-Kennedy amnesty bill, they used border security milestones as part of CIR.
What I am afraid of is that the public will be fooled into believing that this marvelous fence has been built along with a virtual one and the border is now secure. So it is ok to go ahead with CIR and amnesty. I don't know how engaged you are in the immigration movement, but I am very skeptical about your "appreciation," of what has been built so far. Obama, Napolitano, and Chairman Cong. Bennie Thompson have been dragging their feet on the construction of the fence. And so were George Bush and Michael Chertoff until almost the end of their adminstration.
The Secure Fence Act passed 89-11 in the Senate with both Obama and Hillary voting for it. The reality was that this was just political cover for the Dems prior to the 2006 mid-terms.
Ping!
If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.
This Administration, like the Bush Administration, will use the Yuma Sector as an example that the border is secure, when they start going after amnesty again. Notice that the Yuma Sector has more actual fence than the other areas, the exceptions are the Barry Goldwater Bombing Range, where it is a long walk to anywhere, and the Colorado River, where BP has it covered like a blanket. We've been to the river area twice this year, there are BP in front of us nearly all the time we are there.
There is some fence in the Barry Goldwater range, but I don’t believe the entire range is fenced at the border. It would take one dumb immigrant to try to cross the desert there on foot, while the bombing is in progress.
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