A Generation Without a Moon Walk (The technology is no longer available to put a man on the moon)

Human Events ^ | 7/20/2009 | Joseph A. Rehyansky

[UCANSEE2]

Thanks for the link.

[Shooter 2.5]

I am no longer interested in “giving” money to anyone.

[UCANSEE2]

...but it ain’t gonna happen with the current technology of chemical rockets and anything else that might work is generation(s) away...

America is descending into third world thuggery. Until that is fixed....

[Shooter 2.5]

You either know no history or you are very very young.

Perhaps you should learn to use the website to check on a person's profile page.

[thecabal]

NO WAI!!! LOL

[the long march]

profile pages while interesting tell nothing of what you know. Yes I see you shoot guns and were military. What does that have to do with the history of NACA and NASA?

[TalonDJ]

The second reason is there just isn't anything up there worth the time and money.

People said that about crossing the Atlantic. They said that about Alaska too.

[Skooz]

BFL

[dangerdoc]

“If those in “power” wanted to relieve the pressure on this planet, we would be colonizing but it won’t happen right now.”

That is what war is for. China and India both have population problems that are holding them back, I expect them to rectify the problem in the next decade.

God help us.

[The Louiswu]

way

[Donald Rumsfeld Fan]

In 1995 our daughter, then 23, returned home from seeing Apollo 13. “Was it really like that?” she asked me. I told her that I remembered those excruciating days well and to the best of my recollection they hadn’t made anything up or left anything important out. She unintentionally quoted the words of Admiral Tarrant (Fredric March) at the end of The Bridges at Toko-Ri: “Where do we get such men?”

Houston....I think we've got a problem

[Shooter 2.5]

Your quote:

“You either know no history or you are very very young.”

[JoeFromSidney]

On the 20th anniversary of the first Apollo landing, I had an op-ed in USA TODAY. I said in it that the next time we who wanted space travel would have to pay for it ourselves, not expect others to pay through taxes. On the 40th anniversary, I still say the same thing. If all the Trekkies, the Mars Society, the Moon Society, the Planetary Society, and all the unorganized space nuts decided to do it ourselves, I think we could get it done.

The meed shall inherit the Earth. The rest of us are going to the stars.

[norton]

"Have you seen the photos of the Apollo missions controls room? Full of white guys with crew cuts.
Todays mission would mandate that a certain percentage of the engineers, etc had to be classified as minority or female."

You are only part right:
The critical issue isn't 'minority or female' - it is that any such team would have been recruited under rules that put ability and suitability second or third behind a mountain of hiring rules, legal potholes, and bureaucratic smoke screens.

In "the old days" someone went out and selected those he (this was before 'or she' became operative) believed would make it work. They in turn brought in other similar people and Presto! A team of talented and like minded people, who were pressed into time and geographic proximity, given tools and challenges, and worked together 24/7 to make it happen.

Considering that we exploited nazis and communists alike when appropriate, I doubt that race or gender would be at issue today.

Try that today when the boss gives you a project, blows smoke over how critical it is, warns you of the fate in store for failures, and then introduces you to the staff HE has provided you with.

Try to do otherwise, identify the team you want and make it known that any other set will assure failure, and watch the lawyers gear up. You'll probably have to watch from a different vantage point however.

Now re-imagine those two alternatives as a government employee.

Now re-imagine a program with both direct government involvement and necessary private industry execution...then think of a prime contractor working under a program integrator (who probably lost the bid for prime)...and remember that some significant percentage of the program really IS set aside for 'minority owned' business'.

It is hardly surprising that in today's world a "jeep" (HUMVEE) costs about the same as an average single family dwelling and we can't build a 16" naval gun anymore (couldn't mount it in any event).

[Donald Rumsfeld Fan]

I recall the late Carl Sagan (Cosmos) being asked to comment on the triumphant conclusion of a Space Shuttle mission. He responded: “Ah, yes. Once again we have proved that tomato plants do not do well in Zero-G. This is not the exploration of space.”

As a former Apollo/Saturn engineer who worked at the Marshall Space Flight Center, Huntsville Al. during the glory years, I concur. As did many of my colleagues.

[GladesGuru]

“Of course, there are tons of business and psychology majors.”

Far more disturbing to me are all the “criminal justice” majors being produced. Apparatchiks in a developing police state, for the most part.

[Donald Rumsfeld Fan]

I don’t know about the technology,

With our short hair, white dress shirts, narrow ties, pocket protectors and the ever present slide rule we went to the moon.

[ClayinVA]

They think there could be asteroids of solid gold in the belts. Even if we found one, the price of it sold on the open market would not cover the launch costs to get it and return it.

[GladesGuru]

“Colonizing would do nothing to relieve the pressure on this planet. The average daily birthrate on planet Earth is about 357,000 persons PER DAY.”

What is the number when the death rate per day is subtracted from the daily birth rate?

Just wonderin’.

[The Louiswu]

See post #61