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Alameda native first woman to fly president's helicopter
AP via Oakland Tribune ^ | 07/20/2009 | Darlene Superville

Posted on 07/21/2009 4:45:06 AM PDT by csvset

Edited on 07/21/2009 5:57:42 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: glide625

Let’s see. From reading the responses on this thread, it appears 1) black helicopter pilots are incompetents who crash and kill their occupants (#3), 2) being a woman she is only a token (#5), 3) as a woman pilot she must be a lesbian (#15).

A great hue and cry goes out every time freeperland is vilified on other websites for being the home of knuckledraggers, but it appears that the wound is sometimes self inflicted.

But it does make for fun reading.


21 posted on 07/21/2009 5:43:15 AM PDT by dmz
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To: SamuraiScot
All the best to Maj. Grieves, who may be a stellar pilot, but as a policy matter, petty tokenism like this is for show, and ends up getting people killed. Not necessarily because the individuals are incompetent, but that the focus of the organization veers away from its essentials.

Why is she there as a token? What makes you think she isn't there because she's an excellent pilot and an outstanding Marine officer? Or don't you think it's possible for a girl to fly as well or better than the guys?

22 posted on 07/21/2009 5:48:30 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

She’s a Marine, enough said - Semper Fi. My only problem with the story is that there probably is a Larry Sinclair mispelling of ferrying.


23 posted on 07/21/2009 6:03:27 AM PDT by yorkie01
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To: bmwcyle

LOL — no affirmative action pilots available?


24 posted on 07/21/2009 6:15:07 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: csvset

Wowsers!!! A Woman Marine who is a looker!!!

I’d fly with her, too.

(Can’t help wondering if Michelle Zero was consulted before Major Grieves was selected to fly the chopper!)


25 posted on 07/21/2009 6:21:43 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: csvset; SkyDancer

Wonderful.

Anything to add, skydancer? What aircraft are you rated for?


26 posted on 07/21/2009 6:30:11 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: DustyMoment

You and Reagan69 think that she’s a looker? I guess beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder.


27 posted on 07/21/2009 6:44:52 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: Right Brother
I guess beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder.

I'm guessing you haven't seen too many WMs.

28 posted on 07/21/2009 7:23:58 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: dmz

Sorry; I just couldn’t resist the attempt at humor.


29 posted on 07/21/2009 8:29:02 AM PDT by glide625
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To: glide625

Sorry; I just couldn’t resist the attempt at humor.
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No issues here. Just an observation.


30 posted on 07/21/2009 8:42:15 AM PDT by dmz
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To: MikeWUSAF
Sir, I've flown with several very qualified female military pilots. What is your proof that she was not the most qualified?

First off, thank you and God bless you for your service.

Secondly, people are not used to statements of the obvious on this subject. What is my proof that the Maj. Grieves was not the most qualified? None. But I put her assignment in the context of the story, which states that she was flying an all-female crew. Applying your test, what are the chances that these three individuals were the most qualified of either sex in the entire Marine Corps? I hate to be blunt, but the answer is zero. It would be close to zero that the 3 most qualified crew members were all red-headed males. That's leaving aside any statistically significant sex differences that would on the whole give an edge to males. You know what those are better than I do. Spatial relations? Judgment under pressure? You tell me.

Just on the averages, no matter how much you admire particular female pilots, the crew was put together for show. It's cute. It's also corrupting to the military ethic in just the way that military personnel whom I know resent like crazy. It's the use of the military as a diversity toy that resulted in the promotion of Lt. Kara Hultgren, the first woman to pilot an F-14, who sadly lost her life in 1994 when she missed a carrier landing. I trust that the Pentagon has learned a few things since the last time we had a Democrat President, and that Maj. Grieves herself was better served by the officers who tested her than Lt. Hultgren was. But the All-Girl-Orchestra deal is silly.

31 posted on 07/21/2009 11:36:26 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Shooter 2.5
Ok, well I'm type rated in: Cessna 150/152/172/177 Cardinal RG/Piper Apache/Cessna Caravan/Citation III(650). I am also a flight/instrument instructor.

I've been flying since I was 14 - started in sailplanes ..... and fly Air Combat USA for fun ....

32 posted on 07/21/2009 2:09:10 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Non-Sequitur
All these critics rip her yet I doubt if they could do what she has done. Next she'll be flying our troops either stateside or in a theatre of war. Is that a stunt or affirmative action position too?

Fwiw, I saw a program about Air Force One awhile back, it was either on Dicovery, TLC or the History Channel.

They interviewed the Air Force pilot that flew Nixon out west, (San Clemente I believe), after he resigned.

Nixon had a picture taken of the crew of AF1 along with him and his wife Pat.

Nixon thanked them all for the years of service they had provided.

It was obviously a moving moment for the pilot.

33 posted on 07/22/2009 9:12:51 AM PDT by csvset
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