Posted on 07/20/2009 10:19:29 PM PDT by STARWISE
PING!
Stanley Ann Dunham, Barack Obama’s mother, attended the University of Hawaii during the fall of 1960. She was enrolled at the University of Washington in autumn of 1961.
Between these start dates, Miss Duham became pregnant with Obama on Nov. 1, 1960 while she was 17 years of age. Claims are that she married Obama Sr. on February 2, 1961. If this is correct and Obama Sr. was already married, it would constitute bigamy. Bigamy is outlawed in Hawaii, but legal in Kenya. Thus, chances are that Obama’s mother had moved to Kenya residing there the months preceding Obama’s 1961 birth.
Obama’s own grandmother states that she was present when Obama was born in Kenya. Thus, he would not be a natural born citizen. Obama is reported to have been born August 4, 1961.
Now, how could Obama be born in Kenya or Hawaii and then have his mother enrolled at the University of Washington later that same month? Unlikely movement!
Is there any witnesses to Stanley Ann Dunham’s location and movement in 1961 up through Obama’s birth. Any medical clinic visits in the U.S. during her pregnancy? I have not heard of any which is a good indication that she was in Kenya.
Claims indicate that Obama was adopted and became Barry Soetoro in Indonesia. He would then have lost natural born citizenship if he even ever had it. He attended Occidental College as Barry Soetoro. Occidental College informed Newsweek that Obama enrolled as a foreign student (info at FreeRepublic).
By simply releasing his original long form birth certificate, Obama could prove whether he is a natural born citizen or not. By spending an enormous amount in legal fees to keep his birth certificate hidden, it leads one to think that he is NOT a natural born citizen.
Even if Obama was born in Hawaii he is not a natural born citizen. His father was not a citizen at the time of his birth. “Natural born citizen are those born in the country of parents who are citizens” Vattel 1758 Law of Nations
You are exactly correct! We must keep the heat on and demand that the government enforce the Constitution!
You wrote-
“Even if Obama was born in Hawaii he is not a natural born citizen. His father was not a citizen at the time of his birth. Natural born citizen are those born in the country of parents who are citizens Vattel 1758 Law of Nations”
God bless Rush Limbaugh. I regret that I had so stridently criticized his support of GW Bush in the 2000 primary. We need a kingmaker to thin the herd in 2012. I would love to see Rush and Palin team up to form a clear line between what a TRUE republican is and what a blueblood opportunist RINO is [unless, of couse, something comes up that defines someone as a stronger conservative with strong appeal, but I don’t see that happening].
Rush is always cautious, always has been. He tries to be cutting edge, sure, but only after he’s convinced. At least he kept an open mind on this issue all this time. Yeah, I was frustrated too. But to ‘un’ frustrate yourself about Rush, try to see how long you can take Neal Boortz on this same issue. Neal seems to think this is ‘black helicopter stuff’. Boortz is incredulous. How could any political party possibly screw up this badly? He refuses to believe it.
Shame on Ann Coulter, Hannity, OReilly, Medved, etc.
Fair weather patriots, all of them.
BINGO!
Rush the Weenie!
The problem with Medved and Hewitt **is** Medved and Hewitt!
It is **what** they are that is the problem here. Their own fundamental **character** is the problem. Their fundamental character **will** manifest itself again on other issues.
Medved and Hewitt are not just somewhat befuddled regarding Obama. No, their take on the natural born status of Obama reflects Medved and Hewitts essential character and worldview.
I am done with both of them.
Medved and Hewitt are AFRAID of the Media bosses.
I think Rush was making a point of how the burden of proof on on him to defend himself and the opposite is true for The Messiah.
However, just because many conspiracy theories are junk does not mean that what comes out of the mainstream media and government sources must be read unskeptically. On the issue of Obama's birth certificate, Medved and Hewitt sound like 21st Century versions of Walter Cronkite or Arlen Spector, relying on "unimpeachable" government sources and liberal media reports to defend what is clearly questionable. As with the Kennedy assassination and TWA Flight 800, the government had a stake in the received opinions of a single assassin and no terrorist act, respectively.
Michael Savage and others before him have accurately criticized the government-media complex. The mass media dutifully report what government agencies feed them. "Investigative" journalism usually consists of a reporter with a microphone harassing a mid-level bureaucrat, a small business owner, or a small town police chief. To go higher up the food chain will incur the wrath of the media owners, who are quite comfortable with their big business and legislative buddies. Most conservative talkers work for big media, and they understand that there are certain "do not touch" buttons. Obama's birth certificate is one; the pattern of Arkancide around enemies of Bill Clinton was another.
The drawback to restraint on the part of mainstream conservative talkers like Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly, etc., on such matters is that their media of choice is talk radio, a 1980s-1990s phenomenon that bloggers, Twitter, etc., threaten to make obsolete. Just as conservative talk radio personalities undermined the liberal mainstream media, they in turn could be undermined by those unconstrained by talk radio owners who are too comfortable with the status quo.
The truly dangerous thing about all this...is that if he destroys the country...he won’t HAVE to produce one....
Freepers from the Hawaiian from the year of Obama’s birth should produce their birth certificates to prove that his birth certificate was identical to their’s. If not, it might still be fraudulent. I’m in the middle on this one. Maybe someone in Kenya could confirm his birth there. That would be helpful but maybe Bambi bumped them off already.
All that really matters to me is that something funny’s going on. If a single member of the fighting forces refuses to serve the commander-in-chief due to this question, why would a president not clear the matter up and show his freaking birth certificate to the world? It might be some little embarassment, or God-knows-what, but O is acting suspicious.
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